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PCMdaily DB Stat Discussion - PCM15
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 26-03-2016 20:11
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DiCyc wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
And Maurice Garin has won Tour De France. So according to your logic he can still win Tour de france.
No, because he is dead 
But I meant that you can't make that conclusion because of (except you have been in a time traveller) you don't know how the future will be. Maybe he will win Gent - Wevelgem, maybe he will win the Slovak NC, nobody know that.
And if you have been second 6 times in a season, I believe that there must be a win soon. I have never written anything about the future? Would be strange in a 2016 DB. |
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| DiCyc |
Posted on 26-03-2016 20:16
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Arberg27 wrote:
DiCyc wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
And Maurice Garin has won Tour De France. So according to your logic he can still win Tour de france.
No, because he is dead
But I meant that you can't make that conclusion because of (except you have been in a time traveller) you don't know how the future will be. Maybe he will win Gent - Wevelgem, maybe he will win the Slovak NC, nobody know that.
And if you have been second 6 times in a season, I believe that there must be a win soon. I have never written anything about the future? Would be strange in a 2016 DB.
Ah, if you meant that, I had misunderstand you.
Sorry  |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 26-03-2016 20:25
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Good style |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-03-2016 08:39
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Barbier should definitely get an update. After Cholet he was 2nd in sprint in Crit Int now promising! |
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 27-03-2016 15:12
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Brendan Canty could be updated in all of the stats guys, he is doing good in this season. |
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| bob7 |
Posted on 27-03-2016 16:40
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What did you say? |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-03-2016 16:44
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To be honest, he's always been a top rider. He seems to have gone full retard mode since last years Tour, relaying as often as he could, but he's simply one of the best and should gets stats accordingly.
Same goes for Vanmarcke, he's on of the 3 best riders on the cobbles but had to chase 50km in the second group, might have cost him the victory. His results have been poor last year, but if you look at how well he rides on the cobbles, he's just fantastic.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 27-03-2016 16:44
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so Kuznetsov guys?
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-03-2016 16:50
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Just a strong rider, but no real cobbler. A bit like Wiśniowski I guess?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Ad Bot |
Posted on 23-11-2024 08:44
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 27-03-2016 18:15
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Vanmarcke unlucky today getting caught in the split and chasing back like Cancellara had to do at E3 (even though it was easier for him) Then wasted energy attacking on a climb that took nobody with him. It was again Sagan's race to lose, even though I expected a better sprint from Cancellara at the end.
Kuznetsov super strong and upgraded to 75 Flat 74 cobbles and 76 STA for now. Even though GW is not a top heavy cobble race irl, the game though treats it as a cobble classic so for a rider to do well he needs a good cobble stat.
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 27-03-2016 18:31
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I don't think Kuznetsov should have an upgrade in anything but in the Fighter stat, maybe. I agree he was able to follow these guys, but he came from the break... If he had been in the peloton (not coming from the break I mean, since the start), he would haven't followed the attack for sure...
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 27-03-2016 19:29
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He attacked from the leading group late in the race and when caught was able to hang onto the wheels of the three strongest riders in the race and was still then able to finish on the podium. He also managed 15th at the WC RR so he's clearly a strong rider.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 27-03-2016 19:33
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Whats Anacona MT stat? He is quietly becoming Quintana best mountain domestique. |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 27-03-2016 20:08
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77 at the moment.
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| bongobongo |
Posted on 28-03-2016 11:31
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Unfortunately a rider will have to be taken out of the DB.
RIP Antoine Demoitie  |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 28-03-2016 12:43
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bongobongo wrote:
Unfortunately a rider will have to be taken out of the DB.
RIP Antoine Demoitie
Sadly it has already been done.
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| irdalopez |
Posted on 28-03-2016 20:31
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Great job Team Tafiolmo!!
Finetto, Oomen, Bohli or Bernal could be updated, they are doing good in this season. Also Klein Constantia cyclists (Mas, Cortina,...) or Jaime Roson(Caja Rural). |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 28-03-2016 22:14
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March Stats: The Early Season Update
The first monthly update of the new season has been a busy one, quite simply because this is where we the PCMdaily DB stats team can truly gauge the form of a lot of the riders for the new season. The biggest stat changes near the top of the matrix saw Kittel dropped back to 82 sprint (as most people wanted) both Ewan and especially Gaviria making big progress especially the latter and will probably continue to do so over the season. Both Sagan and Cavendish have had their STA dropped a bit despite Sagan winning GW (his STA will be looked at again after Flanders and Roubaix, so hard to get this rider right) Demare has seen his stats go up again, Vanmarcke back to 81 cobble (to match him with the other big favs) Kwiatkowski has been reborn it seems on the cobbles and Zakarin has gone up to an impressive 79 in mountain, will he be a new GT contender or just another Spilak? These are just a few of the stat changes amongst many.
All the stats for races right upto Gent-Wevelgem have been done with the Belgian semi-classics seeing a lot of changes in both cobble and flat stats for lesser known names. Despite having key stages cancelled both the Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico saw quite a few changes as expected as well. Milan-San Remo as always was the biggest indicator for both STA and flat stat once again, which surprisingly saw quite a few hilly riders actually finishing higher than the flat men (I know as I spent more time on this race than any other with the stats, going down to like the first 60 riders) Tour of Catalunya though was a disappointment for the stats, as about 70% of the big GT guys and other big names just weren’t in shape, so this didn’t help much with the stats, but good to see riders like Carthy, Vervaeke and Woods amongst others making great progress in the stats. Star turn of the month though has to go to little known LottoNL rider Timo Roosen who went from 60 cobble to 71 cobble and upgrades in flat and backup stats after finishing 22nd at E3 just ahead of riders like Rowe and Vandenbergh. Also stat changes to Sam Oomen at Criterium who climbed amazingly on the final day and in fact Criterium saw more stat changes than Catalunya, with a lot being revealed on the Col de l’Ospedale climb. This was matched by a surprisingly strong Kuznetsov at Gent-Wevelgem but he has been a rider that has slowly been getting stronger anyway.
Sadly the cobble classics so far haven’t revealed much with the bigger names and we’ll have to wait until the big two for that Flanders and Roubaix to make any big changes. GVA, EBH, Kristoff and Stannard have been ill at some time and despite Gent-Wevelgem being a great race, it’s not normally a decisive cobble stat race to really take as gospel.
Both Croatia and Kodman have been busy keeping all the stats upto date with the CT level riders and advising on some of the up and coming lesser known names at bigger teams as well. Also most importantly the huge amount of work previously done by both Croatia and Kodman for the rest of the CT riders has finally been added to the DB, so the large pool of CT riders now have their best and most realistic stats ever for anybody that wants to experience the more grassroots level of the sport.
Finally to keep things fresh both Myself and Croatia revised all the principal fighter stats, so the game hopefully has a better experience with these riders, not an easy stat to do as the FS actually covers more than most people imagine.
In addition to all this, The rest of the PCMdaily Team has worked hard to update graphics, team jerseys, NC's jerseys and new stages etc (see main release section for details)
Stats brought to you by the PCMdaily DB Stats Team of Tafiolmo, Croatia, Kodman and Matt who keeps an eye on everything.
https://pcmdaily.c...p?did=1058
For this to work you need to have the main 2016 DB first of course.
https://pcmdaily.c...p?did=1054
Edited by Tafiolmo on 28-03-2016 22:56
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| haasje33 |
Posted on 28-03-2016 22:29
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One thing to be mentioned though is that the update contains more than just a stat update 
Inactive due to personal reasons.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 28-03-2016 22:46
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Hi guys, I don't play the game and frankly I have no idea of how your stats look, but I thought I would just put some thought about the early season so far out there. Is there a possibility to look at the stats without downloading it for PCM 15?
Carlos Verona is slowly becoming more than just a decent climber, recently in Catalunya with some very good performances.
Ion Izaguirre has had hit best season so far, its Spain equivalent of Simon Spilak, consistently placing high in week long stage races. I think you should look at his MTN, HI and TT abilities. His recovery, not so much.
Same can be said for Romain Bardet. Bardet is one of the more explosive climbers out there and is peaking for the Ardennes, but is still having a superb season as of now.. Think you should watch him carefully for the Ardennes!
Jesus Herrada maybe deserves a slight bump in his PRL? Its not the first time he has shown this capacity.
I don't have any clue about Contador's stats compared to Froome and Quintana, but I think those 2 should be one stat higher. I know we can't put too much stock into the Catalunya showdown, but I think it has become clear over the last season that Quintana and Froome are the best climbers in the world when at 100%. |
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