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| deek12345 |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:09
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:12
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Hasn't stopped Lizzie Armitstead 
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:15
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Lol yeah ,maybe Sagan needs to change his name he might win something then ,there's a curse on him for sure 
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:20
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No, Merckx was not a machine. He was a complete rider like Sagan, with better tactical understanding. There was no money in cycling sport and all trained at amateur level, so it was easy to win. Where there new is many money and professional, this lift competition to a whole different level.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:34
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This victory gives Van Avermaet a real chance to win World Tour this season, I think
Add a strong cobbled season, a result in AGR perhaps.
Maybe not get run over at San Sebastian.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:37
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Arberg27 wrote:
There was no money in cycling sport and all trained at amateur level
Yes there was. And Merckx took them all. That jerk.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:39
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Ian Butler wrote:
This victory gives Van Avermaet a real chance to win World Tour this season, I think
Add a strong cobbled season, a result in AGR perhaps.
Maybe not get run over at San Sebastian.
Could be good
If he gets a free role, he has a shot. If we get the same as last year, not so much. But I think BMC is starting to realise how good he is, as they keep Gilbert out of his way.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:41
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Good one, GVA. Over the long route, he's turned into a winner at last. Belgium can be proud of him.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:42
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Yeah. Now only they should realize they're overpaying Gilbert and kick him out  |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 15-03-2016 17:50
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he's been doing the same stuff as last year, how is the curse in effect?
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 15-03-2016 18:04
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Waghlon wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
There was no money in cycling sport and all trained at amateur level
Yes there was. And Merckx took them all. That jerk.
Yes He and Hinault won much, because all the others was amateur level. Merckx and Hinault would not have a chance in today with their too much weight and too low cadence. High cadence was something Armstrong found out and Froome has so developed it even more. Weight is very new and Team Sky has so optimized it further. There are as the first car vs car to today, they are constantly finding new way to optimized and make it even better. |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 15-03-2016 18:08
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
he's been doing the same stuff as last year, how is the curse in effect?
thought when the world champ hasnt one a race yet it was widley
known as the curse of the rainbow jersey ,anyway was a tongue and cheek comment ,dont take it literally
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| Strydz |
Posted on 15-03-2016 18:10
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Arberg27 wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
There was no money in cycling sport and all trained at amateur level
Yes there was. And Merckx took them all. That jerk.
Yes He and Hinault won much, because all the others was amateur level. Merckx and Hinault would not have a chance in today with their too much weight and too low cadence. High cadence was something Armstrong found out and Froome has so developed it even more. Weight is very new and Team Sky has so optimized it further. There are as the first car vs car to today, they are constantly finding new way to optimized and make it even better.
So if Merckx and Hinault were racing today they all wouldn't be using all the modern training methods you are talking about?
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 15-03-2016 18:41
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deek12345 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
he's been doing the same stuff as last year, how is the curse in effect?
thought when the world champ hasnt one a race yet it was widley
known as the curse of the rainbow jersey ,anyway was a tongue and cheek comment ,dont take it literally
I always assumed it as "preformed worse in the jersey" if anything he's doing equel or even better. guess everybody takes it differently.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 15-03-2016 18:41
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Apparently something went wrong with Leezer's time
Makes you wonder about the other times and their correctness
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Posted on 15-03-2016 18:43
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I was kinda wondering how he got so good
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 15-03-2016 23:24
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Arberg27 wrote:
High cadence was something Armstrong found out and Froome has so developed it even more.
Do you think there are any other similarities between Armstrong and Froome?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-03-2016 06:51
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O N E S E C O N D, oh gosh.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 16-03-2016 10:59
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lakebeach wrote:
On topic: Great stuff by Cancellara, it will be hard to beat him in the classics.
And Sagan.  That is the 7th time he finishes second since the Worlds.
If he shaved his hairy legs that just may give him the edge to finish 1st |
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| clamel |
Posted on 16-03-2016 11:35
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Arberg27 wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
There was no money in cycling sport and all trained at amateur level
Yes there was. And Merckx took them all. That jerk.
Yes He and Hinault won much, because all the others was amateur level. Merckx and Hinault would not have a chance in today with their too much weight and too low cadence. High cadence was something Armstrong found out and Froome has so developed it even more. Weight is very new and Team Sky has so optimized it further. There are as the first car vs car to today, they are constantly finding new way to optimized and make it even better.
Hm amateur level training. Almost an insult mate.
Training was hard back then too, but of course it's more specialized in details today. One thing is the food you eat. That has changed very much since back in the days.
Riders fitness is closely monitored by an army of trainers with more sofisticated equipment, at least for the bigger teams. Talents are nursed into the sport much better today.
Surely Merckx and the boys that was on higher level would today be in better shape, but question remains (as always) if they would be better or not.
One thing you must remember is that you got a heck lot more riders on higher levels today, as in all sports, so it's much harder to be in class with Merckx (winning at all levels and in all categories)
Merckx was special and he got the nickname The Cannibal simply because it didn't matter if it was TDF or a little criterium in a little town. The man had a presence about him in all competitions.
I believe it is the same in every sport, and of course the money is better today for the big boys. Back in the days it was more getting some bucks for lunch that day. Take my word for it mate...
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