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RDB 2008 (W.I.P.)
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-08-2015 03:03
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Rubens Database 2008
Base: a combination of PCM Daily 2015 DB for PCM 2015 and ASO DB 2008 - PCM 08 db by OlegTinkoff. I converted the stuff I needed for a base 2008 DB.
In the db so far:
*18 PT teams (all)
*22 PCT teams (all)
*21 CT teams
*shirts and mini-shirts for these teams, converted from PCM 2008 ASO DB
*all riders + stats (+adjustments with the knowledge we have now)
*all rider pictures, converted from PCM 2008 ASO DB
*most of the teams have correct bike manufacturers, some others need to be added in the DB still (like Gazelle and Batavus)
*Palmares reverted to end 2007, everything newer has been wiped.
What I still want to be done, and hopefully someone can help with....
*2008 profiles for the Tour, Giro and Vuelta. For now calender restructuring is not on the planning, because I simply do not have the time needed to do this.
*Better, HD graphics for shirts, it's not ideal to convert PCM 08 graphics obviously. But I'm not a graphic artist.
*Adding some U23 teams like Rabobank Continental etc.
*Adding at least 20 more continental teams to fill up the races better. Especially some from Asia, South America and England. Ideally I'd fill it up to 90 teams. But again, I'd need help with graphics!
*World Tour -> Pro Tour. With change in points count
*Riders still need the correct regions they are from. This will be mammoth job because converting from PCM 08 meant no regions, just countries. Now many riders have the wrong region.
Which brings me to...
Overall DB completion: 50%-ish. Obviously, if I had the time to do calender it would be more like 10% 
Anyway, some screens to wet your appetite or get anyone to help me:
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| udoi |
Posted on 07-08-2015 03:31
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nice work |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 07-08-2015 06:38
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Looks great. 2008 might be my favourite year.
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| murao22 |
Posted on 07-08-2015 07:44
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Interesing project, I really like it, although I'm olders PCMs fan (unfortunately of coercion) |
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| DiCyc |
Posted on 07-08-2015 07:46
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Good luck
(Yay, finally a 2008 DB  ) |
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 07-08-2015 11:34
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Graphics look good ingame! Good project, and good luck with it
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 07-08-2015 11:39
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2008? Oh, this is very nice.  |
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| murao22 |
Posted on 07-08-2015 11:42
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Kittel is horribly overrated, 74 sprint skill in 2008?  |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 07-08-2015 11:52
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Lovely!
Awesome project and awesome year.
Good luck! 
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
PCMdaily Awards: 12x nomination, 9x runner-up, 0x win.
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| kashechkin |
Posted on 07-08-2015 11:58
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Is there a chance to get a shirt pack only from your DB |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-08-2015 12:22
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The thing is, he was a good time trialler at the youth categories. So you have to give him around 70 TT/Prologue.
If you give him lower, or around the same sprint stats, he might develop in a time trial specialist. Ofcourse, Kittel is no longer that (although he probably could still do a decent one if he wanted to). So PCM forces you to give him a bit higher sprint stat, so he at least develops into a sprinter.
Many people forget there is a reason why this needs to be done. For the same reason Wiggins has 75 climbing in the DB, while in real life he climbed like shit in 2008. He only started climbing well from 2009. But if I give him 59 climbing, he would never win the tour obviously.
Hope you understand why choices like this are made now. |
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| sali |
Posted on 07-08-2015 12:26
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I´m glad not be the only creating DB´S haha,good luck ruben,dale caña tio a tope!! |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-08-2015 12:27
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Yeah it's been a while... in the past I did stats for several db makers (inlcuding Daily). And before that I did complete projects (mostly with Camerluca from focus). And one historic DB (2000DB for PCM 06)... made from scratch. It's been a while since I had the time and motivation to do something.
Still, when i'll have to work again next week time will be sparse. So I'll have to make good use of it |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 07-08-2015 12:34
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Looks really good. Is Cipollini in it?
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 07-08-2015 12:45
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2008... Such memories
Good luck!
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| roturn |
Posted on 07-08-2015 12:49
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I created the 2008 Tour once.
Unfortunately all stages without narrow roads got deleted.
But I still have the narrow road files. So whenever I find time, I will surely fix this to make it non narrow again. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-08-2015 13:00
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No, not yet at least. ASO DB didn't have him, probably because he was on contract until march and already out by the time PCM got released.
You raise a good point though, I might add him in. All Gerolsteiner dopers are still in also. I might add Ricco back to Saunier Duval as well. We'll see |
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| Wild Dog |
Posted on 07-08-2015 16:32
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ruben wrote:
The thing is, he was a good time trialler at the youth categories. So you have to give him around 70 TT/Prologue.
If you give him lower, or around the same sprint stats, he might develop in a time trial specialist. Ofcourse, Kittel is no longer that (although he probably could still do a decent one if he wanted to). So PCM forces you to give him a bit higher sprint stat, so he at least develops into a sprinter.
Many people forget there is a reason why this needs to be done. For the same reason Wiggins has 75 climbing in the DB, while in real life he climbed like shit in 2008. He only started climbing well from 2009. But if I give him 59 climbing, he would never win the tour obviously.
Hope you understand why choices like this are made now.
But isn't the idea of a historic DB to rewrite history? Not emulate it? In 2008 you didn't know that Wiggins would refocus into a stage racer, or that Kittel would become a supersprinter instead of a great time trialist?
Vincenzo Nibali - Rui Costa - Nairo Quintana - Alberto Contador - Peter Sagan
WDshirts
The Last of the Real
- Story about Dries Deckers - racing against Merckx, de Vlaeminck etc. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-08-2015 20:55
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It is and it isn't. I like to think of people, like myself, who like to play long careers, and I, personally, would like to prefer many riders going into the direction they are supposed to go.
With a mix of riders who were destined for greatness and I kept their high potentials, even if they didn't go the way they planned after 2008 (f.ex dopers like Kohl, Dekker but also young greats like Hagen who never realised full potential).
It's all personal preference, and it's not up for discussion, I do it my way. |
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| murao22 |
Posted on 07-08-2015 20:57
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OK, your DB, your choice. |
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