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PCMdaily DB Stat Discussion - PCM15
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 29-07-2015 01:22
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Tafiolmo wrote:
I know that. That's the problem of the vast majority of cycling-followers. That they're dumb and only watch the Tour and don't even know about most of the other races. Just look at the amount of people watching the Tour and the Giro. The truth is however that over the last couple of years the Vuelta has been by far the best GT, not because of its route, but because of the race itself. It can't be that hard to reform the cycling so that it is better. But if it is up to the UCI to make that change.... well, we'll have to hope for a miracle to have more than just 1 interesting out of 3 GTs.  People like Contador are trying but he's just one and can't change everything alone.
Without a doubt the Vuelta has been the most exciting GT of recent years, as the competing riders at least have good recuperation time before they start it. I'm already looking forward to the Froome v Nibali v Valverde showdown in the race as well, especially since Froome doesn't ride the Vuelta as good as the Tour.
I'm also hoping that TVG might ride it since he dropped out of the Tour with sickness and then we'd have another really strong GC contender.
I'd like Tejay to go, but I doubt it. He's likely headed to USAPCC. The ______/ course don't really favor him as the longer Alpine stuff do anyway.
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 29-07-2015 01:58
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Tafiolmo wrote:
I know that. That's the problem of the vast majority of cycling-followers. That they're dumb and only watch the Tour and don't even know about most of the other races. Just look at the amount of people watching the Tour and the Giro. The truth is however that over the last couple of years the Vuelta has been by far the best GT, not because of its route, but because of the race itself. It can't be that hard to reform the cycling so that it is better. But if it is up to the UCI to make that change.... well, we'll have to hope for a miracle to have more than just 1 interesting out of 3 GTs. People like Contador are trying but he's just one and can't change everything alone.
Without a doubt the Vuelta has been the most exciting GT of recent years, as the competing riders at least have good recuperation time before they start it. I'm already looking forward to the Froome v Nibali v Valverde showdown in the race as well, especially since Froome doesn't ride the Vuelta as good as the Tour.
I'm also hoping that TVG might ride it since he dropped out of the Tour with sickness and then we'd have another really strong GC contender.
I'd like Tejay to go, but I doubt it. He's likely headed to USAPCC. The ______/ course don't really favor him as the longer Alpine stuff do anyway.
I doubt it too since he only left during stage 17 it wasn't during the first week so he had some GT days in his legs and tour de france as always been is main focus and the last time he participated in the vuelta was in 2010. |
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| R_U_MINE |
Posted on 29-07-2015 08:02
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Amateur
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Kwiatkowski needs a downgrade in mountain |
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 29-07-2015 17:38
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I don't think he needs a downgrade he just was in bad form during the tour |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 29-07-2015 17:40
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Don't know what Van Poppel's hill stat is currently, but his win in the Tour de Wallonie is definitely worth an upgrade. |
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| Naxela |
Posted on 29-07-2015 19:32
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simonthekiller wrote:
jonasfremming wrote:
I think Boasson Hagen needs an upgrade in sprint and Serge Pauwels needs an upgrade as well.
I'm agree for Pauwels' upgrade. He has lost a lot of time in stage 5 but he's a good climber with an excellent recovery.
Not to mention Cummings who finished sixth in the Tirreno-Adriatco has 68 in mountain. He lost a minute on the only hard mountain stage but still, he did great and the same on a couple stages in the Tour. I would have him on 74-75 maybe? With high REC.
EBH is without doubt 77, he made big improvements with his sprint after leaving Sky. Or even set him at 78 with low ACC (75-76).
Edited by Naxela on 29-07-2015 19:35
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| R_U_MINE |
Posted on 29-07-2015 19:32
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When all will be done can we have a "preview" of the stats from all riders? |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 29-07-2015 19:38
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R_U_MINE wrote:
When all will be done can we have a "preview" of the stats from all riders?
You will be able to check this on your own with an editor of your choice.
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| haasje33 |
Posted on 29-07-2015 23:24
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I gotta add to Paul23's comment that, as always, we will release some screenshots as teaser before the release. Some stats will be shown there too.
Inactive due to personal reasons.
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 30-07-2015 01:15
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It looks like TVG is going to vuelta which is great |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 30-07-2015 06:34
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fidjim2013 wrote:
I don't think he needs a downgrade he just was in bad form during the tour
But it's already two years that he didn't do anything significant in the high mountains. He's just focused on Ardennes classics and deserves no more than 73/74 mountain. I'd personally give him 73. |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 30-07-2015 10:28
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I would give 74 for Kwiatkowski |
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| R_U_MINE |
Posted on 30-07-2015 14:09
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74 is good for Jungels but Kwiatkowski deserves 73. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 30-07-2015 14:23
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I would give him 74, since he was also on a pretty bad form in Le Tour. With a good form, he would have at least been much better.
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| Naxela |
Posted on 30-07-2015 14:27
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Kwiatkowski is 75 imo. He was totally exhausted even before going into the alps. He did the most work on Etixx for Martin and Cavendish the first week of the Tour and considering his form not being a 100% i think he ruled out his GC ambitions pretty quick. Remember that he finished second in Paris-Nice earlier this year. 
And i agree on raising Jungels' MO to 74 (at least) might even be 75. He was pulling up Mollema on several stages in the Tour.
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 30-07-2015 14:29
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Classics Specialist
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Bob Jungels will be at 75 MO in the upcoming release 
Jesleyh didn't change Kwiatek stats before going on vacation, but might be changed if all are in favor
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 30-07-2015 15:57
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Do you know when do you finish the v1??? This week?? Next week??
Thanks for your fantastic work! |
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 30-07-2015 16:06
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When it's done
If I gave you a specific date, it would make us promise it would be out at that given time.
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| Forza-Diavolo |
Posted on 31-07-2015 09:31
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What do you think about these Mountain Stats?:
Name: stats: Age: Team:
Heras 83 - 30 - Kelme
Simoni 83 - 31 - Seaco
Evans 82 - 27 - Lotto
Beloki 82 - 30 - Once
Sastre 82 - 27 - CSC
Mancebo 82 - 28 - Illes Barears
Menchov 82 - 26 - Rabobank
Valverde 81 - 25 - Illes Barlears
Klöden 81 - 31 - T-Mobile
Di Luca 81 - 26 - Liquigas
Basso 81 - 24 - Fassa Bortolo
Cunego 81 - 24 - Lampre
Piepolo 81 - 31 - Saeco
Vinokurov 81 - 30 - Astana
Leipheimer 81 - 31 - Gerolsteiner
M. Rasmussen 80 - 30 - Rabobank
Zubeldia 80 - 27 - Euskatel
Contador 80 - 23 - Astana
Escartin 80 - 32 -Kelme
Mayo 80 - 28 - Euskatel
Froome 80 - 25 - Sky
Landis 80 - 30 - Phonak
Oscar Pereiro 79 - 26 - Phonak
S. Sanchez 79 - 27 - Euskatel
Moreau 79 - 31 - Crédit Agricole
Virenque 79 - 34 - Quick Step
Savoldelli 79 - 28- US Postal
Ricco 79 - 22 - Saeco
Garzelli 79 - 31 - Liquigas
F. Schleck 79 - 25 -Team CSC
Popovych 79 - 25 - US Postal
Hamilton 79 - 33 - Phonak |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 31-07-2015 09:45
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Contador only 80??? |
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