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Le Tour de France 2015 | Stage 19: Modane / Alpe d' Huez
Strydz
Jacdk wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Greg Lemond man, take the mic away from this guy..


Greg Lemond is a disgrace to cycling...

I really dont like that guy.

Not having a go at you at all but I'm just curious on what your issues with Lemond are? I don't hold him in high regard as a commentator and he does come across as a little hypocritical with his dislike of some dopers and like of other ones but outside of that I can't see any problems with the guy
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Soo who won Zubeldia award this year?

Mollema? Fränk?

Not really an outstanding candidate this year Sad
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Strydz
Jesleyh wrote:
Soo who won Zubeldia award this year?

Mollema? Fränk?

Not really an outstanding candidate this year Sad

MollemaMollema! Frank was noticed and the only reason Mollema was noticed is because of all the Dutch folk on the forum Wink
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Riis123
Holy fuck, that Valverde interview was such a touching interview for me. Finally, FINALLY. Everybody has said, including me, that last year was the last chance. And now he pulls this? VALVERDE <33333

A little down over Quintana didnt get the stage. Hmm. Coulda really used Intxausti in this year's Tour, he got his chance in the Giro and got a stage victory, but.... yeah. Really would have loved to see him there in order to wheel escapees in. Generally, I feel like Movistar shoulda taken more responsibilities, especially the last 2 days in the Alps. They would at least have had 3-4 stage victories.
 
Kritzo
So Quintana lost the Tour due to Kelderman crashing on the stage to Zeeland? ^^
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Jesleyh
Strydz wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Soo who won Zubeldia award this year?

Mollema? Fränk?

Not really an outstanding candidate this year Sad

MollemaMollema! Frank was noticed and the only reason Mollema was noticed is because of all the Dutch folk on the forum Wink

Haha okay fair point. But I can only remember really seeing Frank much on the breakaway stage(Pra Loup) Pfft
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Paul23
Kritzo wrote:
So Quintana lost the Tour due to Kelderman crashing on the stage to Zeeland? ^^

Not sure about that.
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Jesleyh
Kritzo wrote:
So Quintana lost the Tour due to Kelderman crashing on the stage to Zeeland? ^^

Uhh no. If anything it would be Ten Dam crashing. And well that was the fault of a spectator so just blame him/her Pfft

Leave Wilco out of this Sad
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Strydz
Jesleyh wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Soo who won Zubeldia award this year?

Mollema? Fränk?

Not really an outstanding candidate this year Sad

MollemaMollema! Frank was noticed and the only reason Mollema was noticed is because of all the Dutch folk on the forum Wink

Haha okay fair point. But I can only remember really seeing Frank much on the breakaway stage(Pra Loup) Pfft

Nah Frank fighting to stay in the top 10 after the Pra Loup stage has been a pleasure to watch
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dark_x2012
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dark_x2012 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Stromeon wrote:
Quintana 39:22 - 26 seconds faster than 2013 and faster than Sastre 2008. Very impressive performance


Indeed very fast, is that the record? If it is Froome has not even been that bad although looking really weak he as been doing ok numbers as Quintana had the record yesterday on Toussuire

The record is Pantani's-not reacheble in the near 10 years until great new technology and training is introduced.


I don't think it will ever be broken with legal means. That's impossible imo technology and training doesn't have that much of an influence..

In 1984 The Alp d'Huez was climbed in more then 45 minutes. 11 years later 36:40. I agree a huge part of it is doping but technology also took at least 3-4 minutes. Never say never.
 
Riis123
Jesleyh wrote:
Soo who won Zubeldia award this year?

Mollema? Fränk?

Not really an outstanding candidate this year Sad


Frank for me. Definetely weaker than Mochema throughout and he attacked on one stage in the Pyrenees and gained a few seconds. I know Frank was in the break, but... meh, it wasnt for stages honors and even there he wasnt in contention for the stage
 
wouty006
who do you guys think deserves the overal combatitivity award?
 
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Strydz
dark_x2012 wrote:
Bikex wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Stromeon wrote:
Quintana 39:22 - 26 seconds faster than 2013 and faster than Sastre 2008. Very impressive performance


Indeed very fast, is that the record? If it is Froome has not even been that bad although looking really weak he as been doing ok numbers as Quintana had the record yesterday on Toussuire

The record is Pantani's-not reacheble in the near 10 years until great new technology and training is introduced.


I don't think it will ever be broken with legal means. That's impossible imo technology and training doesn't have that much of an influence..

In 1984 The Alp d'Huez was climbed in more then 45 minutes. 11 years later 36:40. I agree a huge part of it is doping but technology also took at least 3-4 minutes. Never say never.

Without doing away with bike weight limits there really isn't much more technology that could be introduced outside of doping that could wipe off that much time
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dark_x2012
Bardet or Pinot.
 
SSJ2Luigi
wouty006 wrote:
who do you guys think deserves the overal combatitivity award?

certainly Sagan if he was french, Pinot, Rolland or Bardet might also have a chance.
 
Spilak23
wouty006 wrote:
who do you guys think deserves the overal combatitivity award?


It's Sagans.
 
dark_x2012
Strydz wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Bikex wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Stromeon wrote:
Quintana 39:22 - 26 seconds faster than 2013 and faster than Sastre 2008. Very impressive performance


Indeed very fast, is that the record? If it is Froome has not even been that bad although looking really weak he as been doing ok numbers as Quintana had the record yesterday on Toussuire

The record is Pantani's-not reacheble in the near 10 years until great new technology and training is introduced.


I don't think it will ever be broken with legal means. That's impossible imo technology and training doesn't have that much of an influence..

In 1984 The Alp d'Huez was climbed in more then 45 minutes. 11 years later 36:40. I agree a huge part of it is doping but technology also took at least 3-4 minutes. Never say never.

Without doing away with bike weight limits there really isn't much more technology that could be introduced outside of doping that could wipe off that much time

The main problem with weight is that most teams make easy-breakable bikes. If a better material is discovered the UCI could give it a thought.
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Soo who won Zubeldia award this year?

Mollema? Fränk?

Not really an outstanding candidate this year Sad


Frank for me. Definetely weaker than Mochema throughout and he attacked on one stage in the Pyrenees and gained a few seconds. I know Frank was in the break, but... meh, it wasnt for stages honors and even there he wasnt in contention for the stage

Nobody on the forum would of mentioned Mollema if he wasn't Dutch, Frank was mentioned after his day in the break because he kept getting dropped and fighting back, that to me says Mollema is our Zubeldia this year
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Riis123
But, but... Mochema? Sad
 
Jacdk
Strydz wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Greg Lemond man, take the mic away from this guy..


Greg Lemond is a disgrace to cycling...

I really dont like that guy.

Not having a go at you at all but I'm just curious on what your issues with Lemond are? I don't hold him in high regard as a commentator and he does come across as a little hypocritical with his dislike of some dopers and like of other ones but outside of that I can't see any problems with the guy


I used to love Lemond and my favorite TdF ever was his runs against Fignon and Hianult.

So i dont hate or dislike him as a rider at all.

What i do however don't like is Lemond as a commentator and his constant rants against doping. It's like Armstrong before he got caught all over again and the arrogance is just aggravating, not to mention that it´s suspicious.

Particular when you consider the time in cycling and what might be early doping.
 
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