|
Le Tour de France 2015 | Stage 19: Modane / Alpe d' Huez
|
| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:39
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 16429
Joined: 27-07-2011
PCM$: 10438.70
|
It's a play on Vinokourov and Kashechkin It used to be Wiggokourov and Froomechkin, but the roles and now progressed to this.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
| |
|
|
| Dusen |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:40
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1173
Joined: 30-07-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Ian Butler wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
Don't see where he made any big mistake considering he's always been firmly in the lead.
And luck... There are those who say that you force your luck. Though I'm not one of them, and Froome has been lucky on a few occasions, but then again, every rider has a bit of luck every now and then. Can't do anything without some luck.
He have been going flat out on strange times in this tour, instad of just relaxing. Like on Mur de Bretagne. And then now he has like 4-5 guys when Quintana attacks, and instead of just staying with his team, and go full gas on the way to Alpe d´Huez they first drop 3-4 of their guys, and then he rides from Porte because freaking Nibali attacks. He isn't very cool when he needs to be. Fortunatly for him, he is incredibly strong. |
| |
|
|
| Riis123 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:42
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5075
Joined: 07-08-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore |
| |
|
|
| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:43
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15830
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
so tour win is gone..Movistar now should keep also Piti into podium |
| |
|
|
| Shonak |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:45
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
It's not going to happen but another Rolland Alpe d'Huez stage victory would be ubersweet
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
| |
|
|
| Dusen |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:45
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1173
Joined: 30-07-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power. |
| |
|
|
| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:46
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15830
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Shonak wrote:
It's not going to happen but another Rolland Alpe d'Huez stage victory would be ubersweet
he was dead yesterday..
Hesjedal is my pick. 4 week rider. |
| |
|
|
| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:48
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power.
Yeah but it was easily predicted that Piti would lack the power to maintain that effort
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/ |
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 25-11-2024 10:33
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:49
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power.
Still wouldn't have meant Froome is stupid. What else could he have done? Wait for all his team mates? No.
Quintana and Valverde are in 2nd and 3rd, so that means they have been better than Froome's team mates.
Froome knew he had to catch them on top and he did. |
| |
|
|
| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:50
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
What a beautiful sight the Alpe is, let's hope it's the last time we see it in the Tour for several years to come
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/ |
| |
|
|
| Dusen |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:51
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1173
Joined: 30-07-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Strydz wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power.
Yeah but it was easily predicted that Piti would lack the power to maintain that effort
Oh really? Do you mind giving me the lotto numbers for this week then?  |
| |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:52
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Dusen wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power.
Yeah but it was easily predicted that Piti would lack the power to maintain that effort
Oh really? Do you mind giving me the lotto numbers for this week then?
Unlike calling Valverde's obvious weakness these last few days, the lotto numbers are not easily predicted  |
| |
|
|
| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:52
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
Dusen wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power.
Yeah but it was easily predicted that Piti would lack the power to maintain that effort
Oh really? Do you mind giving me the lotto numbers for this week then?
Valverde has been fading for a few days now so yes I do believe it was easy to predict
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/ |
| |
|
|
| CountArach |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:53
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8290
Joined: 14-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
I'm just going to shut up and watch the Alp. Enjoy everyone.
|
| |
|
|
| Dusen |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:54
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1173
Joined: 30-07-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Ian Butler wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power.
Still wouldn't have meant Froome is stupid. What else could he have done? Wait for all his team mates? No.
Quintana and Valverde are in 2nd and 3rd, so that means they have been better than Froome's team mates.
Froome knew he had to catch them on top and he did.
Ofc. he could have waited for his teammates. Valverde and Quintana could perhaps have gotten 1/1:30 to Froome on the top of the climb. But then they had a head wind on the downhill, with only Valverde to help Quintana, and then a long flat part, with Sky having 5 guys to go max.
Always easier to sit on your computer and judge, but this could have gone terribly wrong for Froome, if Valverde had just been able to follow the last 500m |
| |
|
|
| Shonak |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:55
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
Would be fun if Q attacks in the first corner already, steepest part of the climb.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
| |
|
|
| Dusen |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:55
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1173
Joined: 30-07-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Strydz wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can say froome has it..no way Quintana can take every 10km. 1min. back..
Yeah, also Valverde was too weak. If Valverde had been better, Quintana and he could've reached the top without Froome and things would've been different.
Froome had to catch up before the top and he did.
Say what you will, but Froome really did everything perfect this Tour and I have lots of respect for him during this Tour.
I disagree. He made a lot of crucial mistakes imo, but luck have been on his side this whole Tour. He is a strong rider, but he is stupid as fuck when it comes to tactics
I dont see it either. Simply put, Riis is old and grumpy and thinks he is ome kind of tactical guru, always lashing out at Saxo and Froome.. Froome did the right thing today imo, he could have chosen to sit up and wait, but it was more safe just to mark it and did it well considering he just joined on the top. Seemed very calculated to me.
Anyways, just fuck Bjarne Riis. Getting so tired of it and hoping he gets a new team so he doesnt join the desk anymore
And what if Valverde had been strong enough to just make the gap with Quintana? Then Froome would have been in a load of trouble. You can't deny that. He was mighty lucky, that Valverde was just lacking the last bit of power.
Yeah but it was easily predicted that Piti would lack the power to maintain that effort
Oh really? Do you mind giving me the lotto numbers for this week then?
Valverde has been fading for a few days now so yes I do believe it was easy to predict
He died 500m from the top. More like a case of luck imo |
| |
|
|
| Shonak |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:56
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
Man quote pyramids are so annoying.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
| |
|
|
| Forever the Best |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:56
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3803
Joined: 27-06-2014
PCM$: 400.00
|
Nibali |
| |
|
|
| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:56
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
Bad luck Nibbles
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/ |
| |
|
