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Naxela
I never done any professional or amateur cycling to be honest, but i was a pretty decent track talent until some heart problems started to kick in. I used cycling allot for training and actually going to buy a new bike next week, nothing fancy but still so hope to get back into shape after a couple of years of retirement lol, my goal is to do some amateur races within two years time.

Most likely going to buy an Giant Revolt (2015). Considering my budget isn't the greatest at the moment. Anyone had any experience with it?
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Naxela wrote:
I never done any professional or amateur cycling to be honest, but i was a pretty decent track talent until some heart problems started to kick in. I used cycling allot for training and actually going to buy a new bike next week, nothing fancy but still so hope to get back into shape after a couple of years of retirement lol, my goal is to do some amateur races within two years time.


Good luck mateSmile What bike are you planning to buy?
 
ianrussell
dienblad wrote:
I'm in pain right now. Did a bike ride to my parents house today, 120km and almost entirely flat. But the problem was the wind: beaufort 3-4 headwind the entire route..... And with doing 90km as the longest distance this year, it did hurt. Average was 24.3 km/h, really couldnt go any faster (my legs were getting empty, and heartrate kept between 140 and 150).
Well, it has only made me stronger (I hope) Cool


Stronger going forward alright! I ventured out a few weeks back in a gale and was utterly broken by the end, despite the heart rate data being on the low side considering the time I was riding for.
 
ianrussell
Naxela wrote:
Most likely going to buy an Giant Revolt (2015). Considering my budget isn't the greatest at the moment. Anyone had any experience with it?


Take it you are considering doing some light off road as well as road riding with that bike? If so it looks like it covers a lot of angles with an 11-34 cassette and 35mm tyres. Of course that will mean a compromise on the road with less straight speed, more weight when going uphill and probably some larger gaps in the 10 speed gearing given the range of the cassette but that may not be an issue?

Certainly looks nice which is as important to get you out riding tbh Smile
 
Paul23
Hey guys. I just wanted to kinda revive this thread.

I just managed to find a local club, since I wanted to start cycling in a group. Its extremely fun. But there is a thing they tried to tell me, but I didn't understand them right. They said, that I need to have a recovery ride after a hard training ride. But I'm not sure how many days after that I should teake myself a rest. They say that 2 days is too much, but I'm not quite sure about this. I mostly need my 2 days of rest to get back on my level.
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Strydz
Paul23 wrote:
Hey guys. I just wanted to kinda revive this thread.

I just managed to find a local club, since I wanted to start cycling in a group. Its extremely fun. But there is a thing they tried to tell me, but I didn't understand them right. They said, that I need to have a recovery ride after a hard training ride. But I'm not sure how many days after that I should teake myself a rest. They say that 2 days is too much, but I'm not quite sure about this. I mostly need my 2 days of rest to get back on my level.

A recovery ride the day after a hard ride is a good idea, just a nice easy roll turning the legs over will do the job. After my last Everest (300 + k's) I rode into work the next day which was only 20 k's and and 30 k's home, then a rest day after that is fine. It really depends on your fitness as the fitter you get the less days it will take to recover, I try and take 1 day a week off the bike as a rule. Well not this month as I've managed to ride every single day Wink actually looking at Stava I've ridden the last 30 days straight but they have been slow winter k's
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ianrussell
Paul23 wrote:
Hey guys. I just wanted to kinda revive this thread.

I just managed to find a local club, since I wanted to start cycling in a group. Its extremely fun. But there is a thing they tried to tell me, but I didn't understand them right. They said, that I need to have a recovery ride after a hard training ride. But I'm not sure how many days after that I should take myself a rest. They say that 2 days is too much, but I'm not quite sure about this. I mostly need my 2 days of rest to get back on my level.


Don't think there's anything wrong with taking 2-3 days a week off the bike - as the GCN mantra goes you're better off doing 4 shorter rides then doing 1-2 long ones (if I was training for something I'd probably go one long then 2-3 shorter rides per week).

I find doing even a basic bit of stretching after a ride helps me. Just 5 minutes or so - perhaps google "gcn stretches" as they have done some vids recently. Personally I do a couple for my back then glutes (bum), quadriceps (front of thigh) and hamstrings (back of thigh) does the job.

Other than that you can have a day or two off the bike after a particularly hard ride or indeed just spin the legs for an hour or so on a recovery ride as an alternative (even keeping the bike on the inner ring is one way to ensure you don't get carried away on these rides).

You'll figure out what works best for you - just listen to your body - feeling exhausted, getting sick often etc. - the signs of doing too much are fairly obvious if you keep your eyes open and don't always give in to the temptation to ride no matter how you feel.
 
ianrussell
I haven't plugged this in a while and as I'm currently enjoying it more than ever check out https://blog.velov...com/about/

Takes all your Strava data and turns it into a stat geeks dream. You can try it for free but going premium now costs all of £10 (14 Euros) per year - let's just say I get far more enjoyment out of it then what is effectively the price of 2 drinks down the pub.
 
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ianrussell wrote:
I haven't plugged this in a while and as I'm currently enjoying it more than ever check out https://blog.velov...com/about/

Takes all your Strava data and turns it into a stat geeks dream. You can try it for free but going premium now costs all of £10 (14 Euros) per year - let's just say I get far more enjoyment out of it then what is effectively the price of 2 drinks down the pub.

Veloviewer is fantastic! I have forgotten to upgrade to the Pro version, cheers for the reminder Smile
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Malkael
Paul23 wrote:
Hey guys. I just wanted to kinda revive this thread.

I just managed to find a local club, since I wanted to start cycling in a group. Its extremely fun. But there is a thing they tried to tell me, but I didn't understand them right. They said, that I need to have a recovery ride after a hard training ride. But I'm not sure how many days after that I should teake myself a rest. They say that 2 days is too much, but I'm not quite sure about this. I mostly need my 2 days of rest to get back on my level.


Well that turned out wordier than I had originally planned, I kind of expected it though. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... Pfft
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Just going to throw out some very broad level stuff here due to not having the kind of information and data required to really apply some specificity to the subject.

Low intensity recovery exercise 1-4 days post-intensive-exercise can assist in the combating soreness as well as the loss of joint ROM (Range of Motion) and stiffness; the improved blood flood can also help by hastening the removal of metabolites. Debatable whether it assists with the repair of damaged muscle fibres, muscle hypertrophy, or the laying of new fibres beyond any benefits improved blood circulation may bring.

Also, interesting to note that initial strength gains can be the result of more efficient muscle (motor unit) recruitment and co-ordination on a neural level.

Curiously, do you have muscle soreness and\or muscle stiffness\loss of joint ROM 12-48 hours after an intensive training ride? If so, in combination with the experienced muscle weakness and two days required to return to maximal strength, that could be DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness). Plenty of strategies to tackle muscle soreness but not so many scientifically proven recovery strategies for the muscle weakness, perhaps compression but it needs further investigating.

It is more prominent in exercises which feature eccentric contractions - such as the lowering phase of the Biceps Curl - but it can also be brought on by unaccustomed activity, such as a higher intensity, or resuming an activity after an extended period of inactivity.

If you can you should certainly try mixing in some recovery rides in to your R&R (rest and recovery) and see how it works out for you. It is worth remembering the Principle of Individuality, which says that training needs to be tailored to the individual. Due to differences in fitness levels and other factors what works for one individual isn't necessarily suited to the other, something to note if the cyclists at the club are better conditioned and aren't tailoring advice to lower fitness levels.

Overtraining can occur due to not letting the muscle tissue recover sufficiently in between intensive workouts; so until the body adapts to the stresses being placed on it is probably better to build up from two days of R&R. Consider whether you are overloading your body too quickly; can you lower the workload of each session, ease the R&R required to just one day and add in an extra session in the week?

At a very general level a resistance program that aims to build muscular strength, power or endurance, assuming a stimulus for adaption is present, does between 3-4 sessions a week to ensure progression occurs. On a very general level 1-2 sessions is often too little and 5-6 sessions impacts R&R and gets in to overtraining territory.

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Shonak
Just wanted to quickly say, boy the new strava sucks big time. Phone keeps on crashing about 3 times before I can even start to record and also the app is kinda more prone to "stopping", but that's probably due to me having not having a good screen locker.

Why not just keep it simple and clean and with a minimum of power requirement, apps like this have to be fast and swift, not an annoyance to your daily workout.

I'll give it a few more tries and hope I can work around it. It makes no fun when I have to stand for 3 minutes around like a dumbwit until the app finally decides to work..

On the plus side, planned to buy a new phone anyway so this might just make the decision for me but Strava keeps on getting more annoying and not sure if I won't switch soon to another app.
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ianrussell
Shonak wrote:
Just wanted to quickly say, boy the new strava sucks big time. Phone keeps on crashing about 3 times before I can even start to record and also the app is kinda more prone to "stopping", but that's probably due to me having not having a good screen locker.

Why not just keep it simple and clean and with a minimum of power requirement, apps like this have to be fast and swift, not an annoyance to your daily workout.

I'll give it a few more tries and hope I can work around it. It makes no fun when I have to stand for 3 minutes around like a dumbwit until the app finally decides to work..

On the plus side, planned to buy a new phone anyway so this might just make the decision for me but Strava keeps on getting more annoying and not sure if I won't switch soon to another app.


Sad

...but price of the 500 has dropped with possibly more to come post 520?

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ianrussell
Quick maintenance question - my rear derailleur has suddenly started double shifting when shifting up (i.e. on to smaller/harder cogs).

It only happens in he mid positions of the gears - either end of the cassette still shifts fine. It even happens when I have the bike stationary and just shift the levers - the display on the hood jumps 2 gears at a time even then - in other words even when the cassette is not in play at all.

As such my best guess is a problem with the shifter but weird that it only happens when shifting up from certain gears :/

Any help appreciated thanks Smile
 
trekbmc
ianrussell wrote:
Quick maintenance question - my rear derailleur has suddenly started double shifting when shifting up (i.e. on to smaller/harder cogs).

It only happens in he mid positions of the gears - either end of the cassette still shifts fine. It even happens when I have the bike stationary and just shift the levers - the display on the hood jumps 2 gears at a time even then - in other words even when the cassette is not in play at all.

As such my best guess is a problem with the shifter but weird that it only happens when shifting up from certain gears :/

Any help appreciated thanks Smile


Have you adjusted the screw on top of the derailleur? (I don't mean it as a solution, has it caused the problem?)

As a junior I have to have locked out gears and often have to 'lock out' the gears by turning the screw, which sometimes makes it double shift and have other, similar problems. My general solution is to tighten the screw more/less, or bang it (probably not the best idea), although I wouldn't go out and do it on my advice. Wink
Edited by trekbmc on 27-07-2015 13:05



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ianrussell
trekbmc wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Quick maintenance question - my rear derailleur has suddenly started double shifting when shifting up (i.e. on to smaller/harder cogs).

It only happens in he mid positions of the gears - either end of the cassette still shifts fine. It even happens when I have the bike stationary and just shift the levers - the display on the hood jumps 2 gears at a time even then - in other words even when the cassette is not in play at all.

As such my best guess is a problem with the shifter but weird that it only happens when shifting up from certain gears :/

Any help appreciated thanks Smile


Have you adjusted the screw on top of the derailleur? (I don't mean it as a solution, has it caused the problem?)

As a junior I have to have locked out gears and often have to 'lock out' the gears by turning the screw, which sometimes makes it double shift and have other, similar problems. My general solution is to tighten the screw more/less, or bang it (probably not the best idea), although I wouldn't go out and do it on my advice. Wink


I think you mean this (taken from Sheldon Brown site):

"Angle adjustment (B-tension)

Modern derailers have two spring-loaded pivots. The lower pivot, sometimes called the "a pivot" winds the cage up to take up slack as you go to smaller sprockets. The upper "b pivot" adds additional slack take-up ability by pushing the derailer's parallelogram backwards.
The tension of the two springs needs to be balanced for best shifting."


I've no reason to suspect it's changed but worth checking (and making a careful note of starting position so i don't make things worse Grin), thanks Smile
Edited by ianrussell on 27-07-2015 13:22
 
AndyPreston
ianrussell wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Quick maintenance question - my rear derailleur has suddenly started double shifting when shifting up (i.e. on to smaller/harder cogs).

It only happens in he mid positions of the gears - either end of the cassette still shifts fine. It even happens when I have the bike stationary and just shift the levers - the display on the hood jumps 2 gears at a time even then - in other words even when the cassette is not in play at all.

As such my best guess is a problem with the shifter but weird that it only happens when shifting up from certain gears :/

Any help appreciated thanks Smile


Have you adjusted the screw on top of the derailleur? (I don't mean it as a solution, has it caused the problem?)

As a junior I have to have locked out gears and often have to 'lock out' the gears by turning the screw, which sometimes makes it double shift and have other, similar problems. My general solution is to tighten the screw more/less, or bang it (probably not the best idea), although I wouldn't go out and do it on my advice. Wink


I think you mean this (taken from Sheldon Brown site):

"Angle adjustment (B-tension)

Modern derailers have two spring-loaded pivots. The lower pivot, sometimes called the "a pivot" winds the cage up to take up slack as you go to smaller sprockets. The upper "b pivot" adds additional slack take-up ability by pushing the derailer's parallelogram backwards.
The tension of the two springs needs to be balanced for best shifting."


I've no reason to suspect it's changed but worth checking (and making a careful note of starting position so i don't make things worse Grin), thanks Smile


Be careful with the screws, they're limiters. If it's not shifting so good the first call is the barrel adjuster to adjust the tension. Or just take the cable out and redo from scratch so it's indexed properly. I wouldn't mess with the the screws unless the jockey wheels aren't lined up at the two extremes which doesn't sound like your problem
 
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anybody knows if virtual reality trainers, tacx trainers for example, are realistic in terms of gradiant. would like to compare but yeaaaah I live in Holland, where our hills, are literally just bridges Sad
 
ianrussell
@andy thanks. The high low screws are set properly and the gears are indexed via the barrel adjuster just fine ( thanks to GCN it's quite simple). Don't think it's the B tension screw either. Increasingly thinking it's the shifter or something with the cabling but guess it'll have to go in for a once over Sad

Thanks very much anyway folks.
 
Riis123
Begun to cycle again. Got myself a nice Pinarello and is debating with myself atm whether to start in a club. But I got a pretty big problem.

When cycling, especially if I am pulling hard, I get acid lactose in my quadriceps, maybe a little under, right above the knee. I have tried a few things, warming up and down after my rides, stretching it out, ice on after etc. Nothing seems quite to work out and say if i go for a 50 km ride today, then it will be much worse tomorrow. Im hoping I just need to get used to cycling quite a bit more than I used to, but I have had this problem before when playing soccer as well (I got acid lactose in my calf muscles back then).

Anyone have experienced that?
 
Omloop
Riis123 wrote:
Begun to cycle again. Got myself a nice Pinarello and is debating with myself atm whether to start in a club. But I got a pretty big problem.

When cycling, especially if I am pulling hard, I get acid lactose in my quadriceps, maybe a little under, right above the knee. I have tried a few things, warming up and down after my rides, stretching it out, ice on after etc. Nothing seems quite to work out and say if i go for a 50 km ride today, then it will be much worse tomorrow. Im hoping I just need to get used to cycling quite a bit more than I used to, but I have had this problem before when playing soccer as well (I got acid lactose in my calf muscles back then).

Anyone have experienced that?


Have you been with this too a doctor, physiotherapist or etc? They might help you out.
 
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