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stealingsilver
Hi Guys.

I had a quick go at this but I found the training plan the hardest bit. Is there anyway of planning training more than 4 weeks in advance? Especially if I have long breaks between races I find it hard to plan.

If not is there any advice?
 
Lamba
Ok, so what is this bullshit? I just finished first in the Gran Premio Bruno Beghelli, but even though I did, after the stage it said the guy who finished 2nd won. He was listed as 2nd on the stage, but my dude was withdrawn. After the race I checked and he is now injured with a 'Patellar tendon tear'. Fine - but that doesn't mean I didn't finish first! Sad

This is the second win the game robs me of this way. Last time the condition was 'headaches'. Are you freaking kidding me? Sad

If I finish a race first, no matter if injured or not, I should get the win.
 
Lamba
stealingsilver wrote:
Hi Guys.

I had a quick go at this but I found the training plan the hardest bit. Is there anyway of planning training more than 4 weeks in advance? Especially if I have long breaks between races I find it hard to plan.

If not is there any advice?

Don't think too much about it.

I've just finished a season with 58 race days and mostly, I just let it be at 3 days per week, and sometimes going to 2 or 4.

I only put it own completely if I had a lot of races in a period, since I think freshness and rythm are more important than the fitness, even though ideally, all four circles should be green to be at the peak of your ability.

I just try making sure tiredness doesn't go over 25, as the tutorial said it would impact the performance in races. The races you do impact more than training, so mainly use it to keep tiredness a bit below the 25 marker. If there's something I really want to win, I do tend to train hard up to the event and plan it so freshness just reaches max just before again so there's as much fitness and freshness as I can get. I don't know if it has an actual effect though.
 
MothBones
TTtheGladiator wrote:



Eventually you will be allowed to participate without having any wins, but it takes some time to get to that point. IMO that still takes maybe a little longer than it should based on the stat progression, but at least it's something. I just want to be able to adjust stat progression again; I feel like I'm gaining too fast and want to draw it out a bit more.


Ah, that makes sense. I agree with you about stat progression, my rider looks too good for 20. However, playing on hard offsets that a bit!

Lamba - I think that counts as a bug, and it sounds like a very annoying one.
 
HugoP
Lamba wrote:
stealingsilver wrote:
Hi Guys.

I had a quick go at this but I found the training plan the hardest bit. Is there anyway of planning training more than 4 weeks in advance? Especially if I have long breaks between races I find it hard to plan.

If not is there any advice?

Don't think too much about it.

I've just finished a season with 58 race days and mostly, I just let it be at 3 days per week, and sometimes going to 2 or 4.

I only put it own completely if I had a lot of races in a period, since I think freshness and rythm are more important than the fitness, even though ideally, all four circles should be green to be at the peak of your ability.

I just try making sure tiredness doesn't go over 25, as the tutorial said it would impact the performance in races. The races you do impact more than training, so mainly use it to keep tiredness a bit below the 25 marker. If there's something I really want to win, I do tend to train hard up to the event and plan it so freshness just reaches max just before again so there's as much fitness and freshness as I can get. I don't know if it has an actual effect though.



You can also go over 25 tiredness, it's still ok if you're under 50. If you're getting too tired just put the training at 0 for 1 week and adjust it to get back in shape 1 month later for your next objectives
 
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MothBones
On a positive note, I experienced some good teammate AI - three riders relaying to bring back the early break in time for my rider to go for the intermediate sprint. Generally teammate protection and aid seems to come mainly when you're on the 'favourites' page, though it can happen otherwise.

Unsurprisingly, the AI doesn't seem so good at recognising unexpected developments e.g. in one race a domestique finding himself with a realistic shot at KoM was still on water carrying duties for the last stage, even though no-one else on the team was in any contention. Would an AI that could respond to that sort of thing be too hard to do?
 
NBoesen
Can I have a word of advice on how to win a sprint? My sprinter has 83 in the sprint, but I just can't win a sprint....
 
Moxi
jandal7 wrote:Yes. There is no Argentine NC or World Champs team. You could try add a route for NCs but don't try adding a WC team unless you're experienced.


Are you saying I could add a Rwandan NC route? Any advice or a point in right direction would be appreciated.

I would likely be the only rider there but would love to wear the Rwandan jersey for my pro rider!
 
SSJ2Luigi
Moxi wrote:
jandal7 wrote:Yes. There is no Argentine NC or World Champs team. You could try add a route for NCs but don't try adding a WC team unless you're experienced.


Are you saying I could add a Rwandan NC route? Any advice or a point in right direction would be appreciated.

I would likely be the only rider there but would love to wear the Rwandan jersey for my pro rider!

it's probably easier to just edit the db to make your rider national champion, as that's unless I'm mistaken just finding the right box to check
 
Waghlon
Moxi wrote:
Are you saying I could add a Rwandan NC route? Any advice or a point in right direction would be appreciated.

I would likely be the only rider there but would love to wear the Rwandan jersey for my pro rider!


You absolutely could! And you would probably be the only rider Pfft
Only riders with contracts participate in national championships in PCM.

Here is an old guide on how to do so: https://pcmdaily.c...p?tipid=50

I'm not sure if the guide works for PCM15, but the base steps are the same.
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Suda
I am with a 24 level cobblestone rider and I think is time to change because this tipe of rider is limited to enjoy all the year. Also I think the game doesn´t let you have a top ryder in cobble and hill.

If someone knows how, just tell us! Combativity?
 
b0nb0n
NBoesen wrote:
Can I have a word of advice on how to win a sprint? My sprinter has 83 in the sprint, but I just can't win a sprint....


Just, find another favorit, and hook on to him. Take the gel 6 km. before the finish, and when your hooked on antoher favorit, you just follow him, and then at 2-2,5 km. you sprint, and you win.

If you can find anybody to hook on to, or he is to slow, then just take the "effort" and put it up to 70, with 10.km. to go, maybe 75, then 80, at 5 km, renmember to take the gel.
And sprint when the gel works Smile
 
Anderis
Well, once you get in the 75 average region, it's starting to get a little bit too easy. I'm playing on hard but I finsh in the top10 pretty much every race I participate in, even if I have very low form and I'm not one of the top10 favourites of the race. I have something like 58 CO and I even finish some of the smaller hilly-cobbled races in the top10. And I've just won a stage in Pais Vasco simply dropping my opponents on downhill with 8 kms to go, riding on a dot and I have only 67 downhill skill.

Also annoying that Kudus is always chosen as a team-leader despite the fact I beat him on all possible occasion in races we participate in together. And I often even don't get a free role. I know it's based mostly on skills and there is a bunch of riders with the same or better AVG in my team, but it's not realistic to be the best rider in the team again and again and still be denied the support I deserve. At least they sometimes protect me even if I was intended to be only a helper. But sometimes the team prefers to protect the sprinter on mountainous stage...
 
J0P3D
It is just about as useless as being protected by the sprinter on mountainous stages. They don't even survive the first 1-2 km uphill.
 
Anderis
Yeah, it's generally annoying that the they tend to protect you with the weakest rider in the team, so he quickly runs out of energy but is hanging onto the group with empy bars for quite a while, leaving you unprotected, and you won't get another protection until he is dropped for well.
 
bru97
Hey guys I am currently playing be a pro mode with a rider specialized in the cobbled classics. I want to evolve my rider into someone like peter sagan with 80+ hills, cobblestones and sprint. Is that possible? I mean if I just keep training for the northern classics I won't evolve enough in the sprints and the hills, so is this possible or is it too much of a growth? If someone knows a way to improve your rider like that I would really apreciate
 
b0nb0n
bru97 wrote:
Hey guys I am currently playing be a pro mode with a rider specialized in the cobbled classics. I want to evolve my rider into someone like peter sagan with 80+ hills, cobblestones and sprint. Is that possible? I mean if I just keep training for the northern classics I won't evolve enough in the sprints and the hills, so is this possible or is it too much of a growth? If someone knows a way to improve your rider like that I would really apreciate


I am trying the same thing, I am in season 3, and have 83(Had 84) in cobblestone, and now I train spint, and I am and 72 in sprint, and 72 in acc.
When I am at 78+, I wil train mountin or GT traning, see if I can be better at time trails also Smile
 
kjeltringen
So I am in my 5th attempt at creating a legend. Before I used to go the puncheur route, since I find it easier to get results that way.
This time however I wanted to go NC, but since I wanted to get some wins before my 3rd or 4th year I decided to start as a sprinter.

At the beginning of year 2 (postpatch!) my rider is level 13;
FL 72, MO 57, HI 64, TT 58, PR 68, CB 67, SP 77, ACC 77, DH 74, STA 69, RES 64 and REC 64
It may not sound like much but these are far better stats than my previous games. As it turns out I get roughly 6-12 points on lvl up riding for rabobank development teamwhereas my other riders who were in Verandas, Cofidis and Lampre got about half of that, like between 3-6 I would guess.
That's strange, wouldn't you agree?
 
b0nb0n
Do you get more points every week by traning 5, insteed of 3? Or is it the same?
 
agente80
Do you know maximum MO stat for a GT rider?
 
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