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2015 Giro d'Italia - Week Two (16th - 23rd May)
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:02
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Contador is more and more ready for 3rd week and he's special climb.
Helmet situation is nothing..riders wearing helmet these days for safety. They understand that for sure..
Same question eating/ drinking on the bike..when UCI will demand a stop for that. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:05
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Didn't Meersman already abandon?
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| Malkael |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:10
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Paul23 wrote:
Didn't Meersman already abandon?
Yeah, he abandoned during Stage 4 according to PCS, that tweet went out after the conclusion of Stage 3 of the 2015 Giro however.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:13
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I like to think Contador just did this to troll all his haters.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:15
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Wasn't the helmet thing like Stage 7? Would be quite some trolling to do it three stages iin advance!
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| Shonak |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:20
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No he did it today.
Kruiswijk did it two days ago btw. It's like the completey normal act inside the peloton to adjust the helmet or take on/off the cap underneath.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Malkael |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:41
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Stage 12: Forli to Vicenza (190km)
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'Il Garibaldi' has already seen its fair share of dramatic breakaway victories, will Stage 12 be any different? As the twelfth stage of the 2015 Giro d'Italia goes from Forli, host to yesterday's Stage 11 finish, to Vicenza and the Santuario di Monte Berico.
Embarking on a 190 kilometre-long journey from Imola to Vicenza, the stage can be divided in to two distinct and separate sections. First up for the peloton will be an easy, flat 130 kilometre-long stretch through the Po Valley before the terrain begins to undulate for the remaining 60 kilometres of the stage.
En route to the finish in Vicenza the peloton will ascend three climbs, two categorised and one uncategorised, before finishing on the Category 4 rated Monte Berico. Relatively short hills compared to some of the Dolomite giants still to come, these will be punchy ascents that challenge even the likes of Alberto Contador due to their steep gradients.
Beginning with the easiest of the four, the Category 4 rated Castelnuovo, 130 kilometres in to the stage, the climbs will only become harder. Officially the longest of today's climbs at 5350 metres-long, the Castelnuovo's average gradient of 5% disguises several tough sections with gradients of up to 11%.
Lasting for approximately 12 kilometres the deceptive, undulating descent which follows disguises a mid-descent ascent to Rovolon. After the descent the journey to the foot of the Category 3 rated Crosara continues along a short, approximately 12 kilometre long, pizza-pan flat section of the parcours.
Beginning 159.4 kilometres in to Stage 12, the ascent of the Crosara is the second longest of today's climbs at 3700 metres in length. Climbing the Crosara will force some splits in the peloton early on with an average gradient of 12.7% in the first 2500 metres, with some sections as high as an agonising 17%. While the final 1200 metres will be at a more tolerable average of 5.5%, giving the climb as a whole an average grade of 9.1%.
The succeeding 7.4 kilometre-long descent and 3.8 kilometre-long flat section will deliver the riders to the foot of the uncategorised Perarolo climb. Even shorter than the Crosara, the Perarolo's slope measures 2850 metres-long at an average gradient of 7%. However, outside a short beginning sector of 4.6% and short sector near the summit of 2.6% the rest of the climb actually hover around 8% in gradient, with some spots maxing out at 11%.
After cresting the summit of the Perarolo just 12.8 kilometres of the stage remain, with the Santuario Monte Berico waiting in the wings to decide today's victor. A demanding descent lasting roughly 6-7 kilometres followed by a flat section of roughly 4-5 kilometres will bring the riders to the beginning of the Monte Berico.
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The punchiest of today's climbs at a mere length of just 1200 metres, the finish on the Monte Berico will be very demanding. Featuring an average grade of 7.1% and a maximum gradient of over 11%, the majority of the final 1000 metres will be at gradients of around 8% or above. With a second continuous day of rain forecast to dog the 2015 Giro d'Italia tire traction could play an interesting role during the ascent up to the Santuario di Monte Berico.
With the teams in the peloton clearly either unwilling or unable to co-operate with each other to catch the breakaway before the finishing line even on days where multiple teams have vested interested you almost have to say that today is another day for the break. The nature of the finish means that whoever wins today's twelfth stage will either need to have a sizable time gap or be either an explosive puncheur or climber.
Despite the tough nature of the finish a number of pseudo-sprinters, riders who can sprint on flatter stages but can obviously climb as well, and puncheurs are being bandied about as favourites for Stage 12. The most prominent names being ushered? Michael Matthews of Orica - GreenEDGE, Juan Jose Lobato of Team Movistar, Philippe Gilbert of BMC Racing, Diego Ulissi of Lampre - Merida, Tom-Jelte Slagter of Cannondale - Garmin and Carlos Betancur of AG2R Le Mondiale.
In the favour of the peloton catching the breakaway will be a forecast 18-23 km\h headwind, with the chance of precipitation also almost guaranteed at 70%. However, given some of the stages the peloton have managed to carelessly throw away to the breakaway lately nothing is assured.
With the general classification contenders still looking to test each other where possible the likes of Diego Ulissi might have some high flying general classification riders competing against them for the stage, if the breakaway doesn't go all the way again. While Astana's Fabio Aru and Mikel Landa would ideally like more time ahead of the individual time trial the joker in the pack could be Alberto Contador if he is feeling good, aggressive racing a trait of Contador when he is on form.
I was not joking when I was letting on about the Vuelta-esque nature of the stage finish today, just a shame neither Daniel Moreno, Joaquim Rodriguez or Alejandro Valverde are racing you could say. So let the Vuelta a Italia, or Giro d'Espana maybe, commence! 
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 20-05-2015 20:56
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Taking off your helmet in a calm sector just to remove/put on a cap or something isn't problematic. If anything, riders putting on or taking of raincoats and trying to throw them away before they get entangled in the spokes is faaar more dangerous.
I say bolt the riders hands to the bars or use those plastic strips.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-05-2015 21:10
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I was watching stage 10 highlights..Porte has 2 teams working for him on this race? |
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 20-05-2015 22:18
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Smowz wrote:
Pretty simple here Porte screwed up - and has got punished. I can understand why he did it - spur of the moment thing clearly.
It is possibly unfortunate for the race but maybe not. Porte and Sky are capable of attacking the race - but you got the feeling that what may happen before yesterday is that Porte may have snatched the pink jersey on the chrono and then attempted to ride defensively to the end. (i.e. follow follow follow follow then do Purito style late attack with 1.5km to go).
Not an option now!
You're right that's exactly what I thought too because you can see clearly that in this Giro Porte didn't make big attack but was following Contador and Aru but it might also be because he want to keep his energy for the TT and last week of race. |
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 20-05-2015 22:24
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gotlandrules wrote:
The biggest problem i have with it is that Porte had a teammate 5 meters away yet he took Clarkes wheel just to have one extra rider to help pace him back, how is that not abusing the rules?
Edit: He might have just done it because he was stressed and just blanked aswell, i just mean that it can be seen as abusing the rules.
You didn't watch replays or what ? You didn't see Porte screaming at his teammate but he didn't hear the scream because the peloton was going full speed and was trying to stay in contact. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 20-05-2015 22:32
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fidjim2013 wrote:
gotlandrules wrote:
The biggest problem i have with it is that Porte had a teammate 5 meters away yet he took Clarkes wheel just to have one extra rider to help pace him back, how is that not abusing the rules?
Edit: He might have just done it because he was stressed and just blanked aswell, i just mean that it can be seen as abusing the rules.
You didn't watch replays or what ? You didn't see Porte screaming at his teammate but he didn't hear the scream because the peloton was going full speed and was trying to stay in contact.
This is what i'm talking about.
https://cdn.velone...60x440.jpg
Edited by gotlandrules on 20-05-2015 22:35
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 20-05-2015 22:55
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I feel bad for Porte, stupid decision by Vegni imo.
Missed last two stages, will pretty much be able to watch the rest now. Looking forward to tomorrow, I love those kinda stages. I hope a break wont succeed this time around and wanna see a fight between the best on Berico. I say Aru for tomorrow if the break is caught - reckon it will be too hard for Matthews, Gerrans and those type of guys.
Shonak: Whether I was kidding by saying Aru potentially could do a better iTT than Contador? Honestly, a little (since you are the biggest Conta-fan eva), but I can see it happening and wouldnt be surprised at all. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 21-05-2015 10:42
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Couple of bets for today's stage. Played on Unibet:
Visconti placing better than Damiano Caruso, 2,20
Urán placing better than JVD, 1,65
Aru placing better than Contador, 1,65
I dont really get the oddsmakers for the first bet, but as usual, I will probably get screwed hard in tha butt anyways...
And just a retarded combined play on Betsafe since I dont really have any money left:
Giro d*Italia 2015 - Stage 12 Stage Head2head: Grega Bole (-Francesco Gavazzi)1.70
Giro d*Italia 2015 - Stage 12 Stage Head2head: Roman Kreuziger (-Leopold Konig)1.86
Giro d*Italia 2015 - Stage 12 Stage Head2head: Giovanni Visconti (-Damiano Cunego)2.10
Giro d*Italia 2015 - Stage 12 Stage Head2head: John Darwin Atapuma (-Maxime Monfort)1.78
Giro d*Italia 2015 - Stage 12 Stage Head2head: Fabio Felline (-Tom Jelte Slagter)2.20
Total at 26.
Edited by Riis123 on 21-05-2015 10:49
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 21-05-2015 11:09
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Isn't it a bit stupid to head 2 head bets on a flat stage with favourites who couldn't care less if they finish 20th 30th 40th or 50th as long as they dont lose any time?
Very random to me.
Edit, this is a hill finish but still
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| Shonak |
Posted on 21-05-2015 11:10
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Izagirre and Lobato looked really fit in yesterday's finale, I'd love to see a Giro win by either of them. Just to keep in line with former Orange crush members doing well. Ulissi seems to be a good outside bet but he has not even close to the hill-abilities from last year apparently so a member of the break it must be to take the stage win I guess.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 21-05-2015 11:12
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I like Gilbert for today.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 21-05-2015 11:16
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Isn't it a bit stupid to head 2 head bets on a flat stage with favourites who couldn't care less if they finish 20th 30th 40th or 50th as long as they dont lose any time?
Very random to me.
Edit, this is a hill finish but still
If the break gets caught, I bet ya Aru, Contador etc. will battle it out with the puncheurs. Also, there are some tough climbs before Berico |
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| Malkael |
Posted on 21-05-2015 14:15
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Well this breakaway just got doomed even further thanks to the worsening conditions. Orica - GreenEDGE had them pegged in around a minute to one minute and thirty seconds and now the rain has brought Etixx to the front and they are hammering along, reducing the gap to under a minute and falling towards 30 seconds.
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 21-05-2015 15:13
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Kiryienka such a beast; gets a gap of 10-15 metres to the front of the peloton without even trying and then looks round confusedly wondering why no one is following him
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