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matt17br
Not in the next update where he already was upped for 77 hill Wink

Good spot though.


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matt17br wrote:
Not in the next update where he already was upped for 77 hill Wink

Good spot though.
Ah good.Because he deserves 77 Hill.

 
Squire
Hah, I guess I should abstain from commenting until the next update is out, it seems like the most important stuff is already taken care of. Ewan at 70HIL seems more correct. In my experience with PCM14, hill stats doesn't really matter much in slightly uphill sprints if the stage is flat and the sprinters are fresh. Guys like Cavendish are still beasting it.


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Squire wrote:
Right, Izagirre might actually need 78MO to replicate those results.
I don't think Izagirre should get 78 MO more like 77.

 
matt17br
Why? Isn't 5th at Nice and 3rd at Romandie with riders with all higher mountain stats in front of him enough to get him 78 paired with low REC?

He also got a good 2nd overall place at Algarve in front of people like Conta and Pinot and only behind Thomas. 4th at Com Valenciana is not exactly crap either. I mean surely he is not as bad as Anacona TSF?


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AndreasEng
Should be looking at a downgrade for Nibali. Was bad last year, and the same is happening this year. Nowhere near as strong as Contadors 82 MTN stat.

 
matt17br
AndreasEng wrote:
Should be looking at a downgrade for Nibali. Was bad last year, and the same is happening this year. Nowhere near as strong as Contadors 82 MTN stat.

He's been downgraded to 81 just today, obviously still possible to revert that change if something exceptional happens.


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Alakagom
What about Benoot? 82 MO?


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AiZaK
And Bob Jungels in Mountain??? 76? 77?

 
Geslin-bouygues
I think this guys in Conti need a little up no? :

PLANCKAERT Baptiste https://www.cqrank...;current=0
PL 71>73 ; PAV 69>71 ; END 68>70

EIBEGGER Markus https://www.cqrank...;current=0
MO 70>72 ; VAL 71>72 ; BAR 67>70 ; END 69>70 ; REC 69>70 ; RES 66>68

BRANDAO Joni https://www.cqrank...;current=0
MO 71>72 ; VAL 69>71 END 68>70 ; RES 66>68 ; REC 69>72

BRAVO OIARBIDE Garikoitz https://www.cqrank...erid=12121
VAL 70>72 ; END 67>70 ; RES 66>68 ; REC 66>68

And you can add WILMANN Frederik to ColoQuick Cult
https://www.cqrank...derid=2595

Thanks for your work guys

 
Croatia14
Geslin-bouygues wrote:
I think this guys in Conti need a little up no? :

PLANCKAERT Baptiste https://www.cqrank...;current=0
PL 71>73 ; PAV 69>71 ; END 68>70

EIBEGGER Markus https://www.cqrank...;current=0
MO 70>72 ; VAL 71>72 ; BAR 67>70 ; END 69>70 ; REC 69>70 ; RES 66>68

BRANDAO Joni https://www.cqrank...;current=0
MO 71>72 ; VAL 69>71 END 68>70 ; RES 66>68 ; REC 69>72

BRAVO OIARBIDE Garikoitz https://www.cqrank...erid=12121
VAL 70>72 ; END 67>70 ; RES 66>68 ; REC 66>68

And you can add WILMANN Frederik to ColoQuick Cult
https://www.cqrank...derid=2595

Thanks for your work guys


Very well spotted! Most of the guys enjoyed updates already on our planned db, which you will see in the very next update Smile

Not all as harsh as you are suggesting, but pointing at this direction.


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Anderis
Anderis wrote:
I think 73 mountain for Clarke is a bit too much. He isn't better climber in high mountains than Moser (72 MO) or Brown (71 MO).

Well, Clarke proved me kinda wrong today. Grin

 
Jorge14
Chaves and Kruij, 80 on mountains for sure right?
Probably Kruij with a bad descent stat

 
sasijaski
Jorge14 wrote:
Chaves and Kruij, 80 on mountains for sure right?
Probably Kruij with a bad descent stat


chaves downhill 77??
kruij 67??

 
I_Mayo
sasijaski wrote:
Jorge14 wrote:
Chaves and Kruij, 80 on mountains for sure right?
Probably Kruij with a bad descent stat


chaves downhill 77??
kruij 67??


One crash (even if it's so memorable) shouldn't necessary mean that he is a bad downhiller, I actually could say quite the opposite. Now Zakarin on the other hand... completely misses trajectories enough so that you can say that he is not a good descender.

 
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sasijaski wrote:
Jorge14 wrote:
Chaves and Kruij, 80 on mountains for sure right?
Probably Kruij with a bad descent stat


chaves downhill 77??
kruij 67??

Come on now, don't tell me Kruijswik is now a bad descender because of one crash! He descends quite good, and to me he ain't worst than Chaves, but even if was worse, a 67?! I don't think the downhill stat means crash frequency. Grin

 
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I_Mayo wrote:
sasijaski wrote:
Jorge14 wrote:
Chaves and Kruij, 80 on mountains for sure right?
Probably Kruij with a bad descent stat


chaves downhill 77??
kruij 67??


One crash (even if it's so memorable) shouldn't necessary mean that he is a bad downhiller, I actually could say quite the opposite. Now Zakarin on the other hand... completely misses trajectories enough so that you can say that he is not a good descender.


Oops didn't see ur comment!!! :lol:

 
Tafiolmo
Just summing up on a few of the questions and comments I've seen here.

Kruijswijk will be on 80 mtn with improved Res while Chaves will be on 79 mtn largely because 1) Krujiswijk is at least a point superior in mtn and 2) because Chaves has an amazing acc which makes him dangerous when going uphill to compensate.

Kruijswijk I actually think is a poor DH rider and that is even without the crash but Zakarin is just plain terrible. Chaves though is a good DH rider and the stats will show this.

All this though of course is still dependent on tomorrow's big mtn stage.


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matt17br
Yeah I tend to agree, Kruijswijk even without considering the crash, was gonna be in the high 60s of the DH stat, he never showed he was a good descender.


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I_Mayo
Can someone explain me the phenomenon of Anacona and how his MTN rating actually should be switched with Visconti's.

 
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