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kumazan
Yes, Lotto is a team with lots of GC riders, as opposed to Sky.


 
Avin Wargunnson
kumazan wrote:
Yes, Lotto is a team with lots of GC riders, as opposed to Sky.

Nice trolling, but you know Sky has far better lead-out (well on paper,because it sucked in Italy) Smile
But Greipel is really strong and fast, too bad he is winning every year at Turkey, Luxemburg and these shitty races instead of having balls to challenge Cav more often (well if he will be well prepared in July he could get close to Sagan in some stage Pfft ).


Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 01-06-2012 06:25
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kumazan
He has the balls to challenge Cavendish, he just doesn't have the positioning to beat him.

And yes, I know Sky's train is much better, but Lotto having to protect GC leaders in most races? Huh? They have, what, 1 GC guy? And he's not even raced with Greipel yet this year.


 
Alakagom
kumazan wrote:
They have, what, 1 GC guy? And he's not even raced with Greipel yet this year.


Exactly. Pretty much in every race Greipel was, he was the leader of Lotto and Lotto was working solely for him.


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Avin Wargunnson
kumazan wrote:
And yes, I know Sky's train is much better, but Lotto having to protect GC leaders in most races? Huh? They have, what, 1 GC guy? And he's not even raced with Greipel yet this year.

That is true of course, cant argue with that Smile


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Wilier
The big difference is that Sky's GC riders also work for Cavendish. We'll see at the tour. Lotto will have a couple riders marking their GC riders, as well as Greipel, while Sky's GC riders will have to help in the Cavendish train.

BTW I still think that even in a perfectly fair sprint, Cavendish would still be faster than Greipel. It's just that Greipel could be much more productive in terms of wins with the same help as Cavendish has. (He's still very productive though).


Edited by Wilier on 01-06-2012 13:10
 
Alakagom
Wilier, Lotto has only 2 climbers in the team and they will be protected.

Sky will have 3 riders that won't do any kinda of work at Tour, they will be protected.

Greipel wins in Luxmebourg again... and Swift ( good comeback after hurting his shoulder before Giro ) comes 2nd. No surprises then Pfft


Edited by Alakagom on 01-06-2012 16:29
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Wilier
Alakagom wrote:
Wilier, Lotto has only 2 climbers in the team and they will be protected.

Sky will have 3 riders that won't do any kinda of work at Tour, they will be protected.



We'll see at the Tour. My main point was that Sky (and Columbia in the past) is way stronger than Lotto in providing a good leadout.

 
IFF
Wilier wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Wilier, Lotto has only 2 climbers in the team and they will be protected.

Sky will have 3 riders that won't do any kinda of work at Tour, they will be protected.



We'll see at the Tour. My main point was that Sky (and Columbia in the past) is way stronger than Lotto in providing a good leadout.


Yes, The position Greipl's had in the final sprints has been awful in bigger races.
in the tour last year, he was at times the fastest guy in the last 300 meters but sadly the other sprinters were at 200 meters by the time he got to 300 meters Grin

one stage, he might have been in lloyd mondory's wheel starting the sprint Wink

 
Il Grillo
More or less by coincidence i was in Luxembourg for the prologue during my cycling holiday. Already met the radioshack team in the middle Of nowhere the afternoon at their warm-up ride. Was nice to watch. But disappointed how few people were there to watch the race . I mean this is an .hc race we had far more people watching the niedersachsen-rundfahrt and that wasnt even a tt /prologue. Was able to stand front row despite a local rider like Frank was there at the rsh-bus small talking a bit with voigt and taking some pcs . Interesting the talk between ekimov and rast that cancellara is physically strong and slim . But isnt yet mentally fit after the crash. Greipel and Sieberg did both look really strong . TSV is a bunch of arrogant morons. It was nice to see at the warm up who was actually going for a result

 
Eden95
Tour de Kumano had the first stage, it was a 700m prologue. Can they even be that small?


Edited by Eden95 on 02-06-2012 03:25
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Teddy The Creator
Eden95 wrote:
Tour de Kumano had the first stage, it was a 700m prologue. Can they even be that small?

Imagine that in PCM Pfft And I thought the Tour of Qatar (or Oman?) prologue was short!


 
Wilier
In PCM that would take like 5 seconds. Pfft

 
IFF
yeah the giro prologue in 2005 was 50% longer than that Grin

2005 was the first year that i got the PCM game, i remember making a custom 3 week tour of the prologue races and setting them as road races Grin it was fun.

 
Ian Butler
IFF wrote:
yeah the giro prologue in 2005 was 50% longer than that Grin

2005 was the first year that i got the PCM game, i remember making a custom 3 week tour of the prologue races and setting them as road races Grin it was fun.


Haha, sounds like a lot of fun!
Start, making a sprint train, sprint, done. Next!

 
baseballlover312
I made a completeley flat 7 km road race where each team has 5 guys. Grin


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felix_29
Poels wins stage 4 of the Tour de Luxembourg, outsprinting Fuglsang and Schleck. Fuglsand in yellow now, Poels 2nd and Schleck 3rd.


 
kumazan
felix_29 wrote:
Poels wins stage 4 of the Tour de Luxembourg, outsprinting Fuglsang and Schleck. Fuglsand in yellow now, Poels 2nd and Schleck 3rd.


Poels against 3 RSNTs. Poels wins. Awesome. Grin


 
Alakagom
kumazan wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
Poels wins stage 4 of the Tour de Luxembourg, outsprinting Fuglsang and Schleck. Fuglsand in yellow now, Poels 2nd and Schleck 3rd.


Poels against 3 RSNTs. Poels wins. Awesome. Grin


Haha, what a massive fail. Poels is also just 2 secs off the GC from Jakob, so might try to go for intermediate tomorrow.


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siwi
Wow Fuglsang is amazingly strong coming back from a long break!! What a comeback, wow.

 
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