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Bikex
Well complaining now about something after it just is too late to make any changes won't help much. The Wage demand is determined by AVG, perfomance in the previous season and the current wage. Contador had already a much lower wage compared to Froome and Nibali and also a much worse season. Also the wage demand was reduced by almost 100 by the Mediator Shonak used.

I considered changing the min wage formula before, but it never seemed an issue to anyone, so that's why I didn't really think much about it. Before next season I'll clearly give it another thought, but to have that included for this season it's already too late.

 
Ollfardh
OZ - I'll never take offence to people who disagree with me if they do it in a polite and constructive manner Wink

Bikex - I think it's a good system in general, but it shouldn't be that there's such a difference between them. I don't know if it's possible, but maybe there should be a factor that riders grow towards each other in wage? If Contador knows what Froome and Nibali earn, he should ask higher. If The Rider knows how low Contador goes, he should be able to give Froome lower wage offer based on that.


Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Shonak
@ollfradh: Cool. So someone can offer his guy 2k and I have to suffer the consequences. Seems legit. Pfft

Also, how should such a thing be applicable to normal riders, where should they orientate themselves? Because it's unfair if it's just for 80 stat guys, or 79+ stats. Too much market interference overall me thinks.

I'm sure bikex can handle the wages fine by turning up the demands. That said, don't you guys cry when your leaders become unaffordable. Smile


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Shonak
I also appreciate it that the min wages are in this game. This makes it a sound decision of going for depth in a squad, which certainlty pays off imo. If there wern't min wage, people would honestly turn to hoarding their top doms because they are so cheap. Min wages are a very good thing imo.


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Bikex wrote:
I considered changing the min wage formula before, but it never seemed an issue to anyone, so that's why I didn't really think much about it. Before next season I'll clearly give it another thought, but to have that included for this season it's already too late.


I only brought it up since the discussion about wages started already. Not because I thought it was absolutely necessary that this needed a change but because I think that it is the other side of the coin that was discussed. Ofc I realized that it is too late just as for the higher leader demands. If anything I would have been angry if some things would still have been changed for this season already ^^

@ Shonak : My point was not that min wages are bad (they certainly are not! ) but that they are imo too high for low AVG guys.


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Bikex
I still need the bids of following teams:
Vegeta Cycling Team
Illes Balears
Sugoi - Xanterra
Allianz Cycling Team
Celesio Pro Cycling
Team Cymru Wales
TVM Cycling Team
Team Renova
Team W - Junior
Lufthansa IN Racing
A1 Cycling Team
Aeropostal Venezuela Ciclismo
Team Heineken - Shell

If you do not wish to send in bids for this round, please send me a PM stating that.

 
AbhishekLFC
What is the deadline?


 
Bikex
AbhishekLFC wrote:
What is the deadline?


I hope I can get everything by Sunday.

 
jandal7
bwiggins wrote:
matt17br wrote:
Ouch. 1600 on Demare and Croatia didn't even succeed? Looks like bwiggins will have no money for transfers then.


Will never let him go, he'll stay with me foreverPfft

Or you could have this for 420 Cool

Shonak wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
That must be the single greatest TTT from a Spanish wildcard at a GT, no?

How about some shwowing some joy on getting freaking silver in RR? :lol:

:lol::lol::lol: guess Lukas did do something last year, I chucked him out first round renewals cause he was so useless. Can't believe I didn't see this :lol::lol: Watching video, what a steroid sprint.


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24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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AbhishekLFC
Can I put money into research in the next FA Rounds or is Round 1 the only option? And where can I find the options for research (also these potions that are being talked about)?


 
Croatia14
AbhishekLFC wrote:
Can I put money into research in the next FA Rounds or is Round 1 the only option? And where can I find the options for research (also these potions that are being talked about)?


you can put it in later (I would wait for that point)


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jserna735
Any updates on round 1 of FA?

 
AbhishekLFC
Anyone else have that tingling sense of anticipation before the big reveal? Grin


 
Bikex
I give the remaining managers max 24 more hours. The next rounds won't take this long, but in the first round I like to give everyone the chance to send something in, even if it takes longer, as it is the most important transfer round.

 
mvhoogdalem
Totally forgot about it, will do it now Smile

Well.. not much I can do with a budget of 50.


Edited by mvhoogdalem on 04-07-2016 15:57
 
Scatmaster111
The amount of anxiety on my bids is killing me on the inside.


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jserna735
Are we good to go for a round 1 reveal soon?

 
AbhishekLFC
With the deadline set as it was yesterday, I doubt the results will come so soon...

Tension, tension, tension!


 
Bikex
It's kind of annoying to have teams not sending anything in for the first round, but by now there was definitely enough time. These teams didn't send in anything:

Team Cymru Wales
Team W - Junior
A1 Cycling Team
Team Heineken - Shell

DonnyBrasco (Heineken) didn't login since signing up, so I don't expect much more in the future from him. sutty already has a full team but also didn't answer to my PM. Waghlon is posting "funny" stuff all day on the site but didn't even bother to answer one of my PMs explaining his situation. Luxemburger is on vacation so it's kind of understandable I haven't gotten anything from him.
I will not remove any of these teams, I'll start filling them with unsigned riders from their focus nations after this round, which won't make them really competitive.
Also I decided to add another Team: ICBC Cycling Team, which will be similarly like Telecom Namibia last season managerless and only consist of Asian riders.

Free Agents Round 1.2


The db where you see what riders you could already secure in round 1.1: https://www.mediafire.com/download/2qu...-R1.1.xlsx
You can also see which cyclists are still in negotations, meaning a second round of bids is necessary.

The second part of round 1 will be done via pm. For riders whose at least top two biders were only seperated by a maximum of 20% of the maximum bid you will have to make a second bid. The highest bider here will get the riders. In the event of a tie a random generator will decide who gets the rider.
The new bid has to be at least 90% of your old bid.
I'll pm you a list of riders you have to make a second bid on and you send me the list back. This is an example of how the list will look like:

50443Tom Boonen600540


50 would be the team ID, 443 the rider ID, it's obvious what "Boonen" and "Tom" are, 600 would be the wage you offered in round 1 and 540 is the lowest amount you can bid now.
To make the new bid copy everything put it in a table formate and send it back to me. Please don't forget to send it to me in a table format, that'd save me a lot of work.

So this is how your answer could look like:

50443Tom Boonen600700



To see what's left of your budget after deducting the wage of the riders you secured already open the spoiler. You have to deduct what you want to have left for scouting and research yourself.
Spoiler
1Vegeta Cycling TeamWT880
6Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling TeamWT1630
7Illes BalearsWT2075
8Feryn BikesWT1025
9Fast N' Loud Cycling ProjectCT2915
11Sugoi - XanterraWT4300
12Allianz Cycling TeamWT520
15Gaerne - CSFCT565
16Celesio Pro CyclingWT0
19Bunzl - CentricaWT445
20CarbonSports Cycling - LightweightWT395
23Italo - VentilairWT-330
29Fiskars CyklingCT570
32Team Cymru WalesCT390
34SAP - BianchiWT1985
40La Poste presented by MavicCT1000
41Leopard - Evonik Pro CyclingWT3145
42Team AlitaliaWT300
43TVM Cycling TeamWT1245
44Suntory Lucozade SportWT190
45Saeco - CannondaleWT1165
50CCC Sprandi PolkowiceCT995
51Team RenovaCT1415
52Santos - EuskadiCT2350
53Sevilla Cycling TeamCT1205
55The Spark Project p/b BolléWT1915
56Specialized World CyclingCT3330
58Team PeugeotWT4585
60Team W - JuniorCT4850
61VisitUkraine p/b NemiroffCT1550
62Schuh p/b WiggleCT2280
63Lufthansa IN RacingCT2530
64A1 Cycling TeamCT4830
65Aeropostal Venezuela CiclismoCT2725
66Team Heineken - ShellCT4850
67Team ColdeportesCT3500
68Credit Suisse Pro CyclingCT1570
69Enel Pro CyclingCT2960


If you want you can use this excel file for this bidding: https://www.mediafire.com/?6zl3k779bz...779bzwn1ys

Just past the table I send you into the red box. Also put your budget left into the cell it belongs into. Also readd your talent focus and research!
The file isn't needed though.

The deadline will be 48 hours, if I don't get a reply I'll enter your previous bid for this round as well.

 
PeterRyder
*Sees Rui Costa hasn't joined*
*Cries*


 
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