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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 11:35
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admirschleck wrote:
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^I'll give you 1 year to change your opinion 
Exactly.
You mean one year when I'm not 14? 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-05-2014 11:42
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baseballlover312 wrote:
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I will never get the fact that you can drive a car by 16 and drink by 21 in USA, can it get any more stupid?
Driving doesn't cause brain damage at a young age, but consuming alcohol can.
Listen to this guy, he's got a good point
Though I also think 16 is too early to drive a car. Undeveloped brains can't asses risks enough to drive a car.
I say you should be the age of 25 for both drinking and driving. (Drinking actually should be illegal, but that's not realistic in our society)
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 11:42
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baseballlover312 wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
^I'll give you 1 year to change your opinion
Exactly. Late puberty will change you alot, believe me.
You mean one year when I'm not 14?
If I got it correctly, you are 14 now, right? Well, believe me and Admir, your opinion will change a lot in 1 year time 
P.S: Ian, 25 to drive a car? That is insane  With that age, many people are living in their own places, sometimes even with kids already
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-05-2014 11:44
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I will never get the fact that you can drive a car by 16 and drink by 21 in USA, can it get any more stupid?
Driving doesn't cause brain damage at a young age, but consuming alcohol can.
Yeah, you can only kill bunch of people with it, but thanks whoever you believe in that it does not cause brain damage.
On that sex part, i know it can be seen as disgusting by some, but your body and mind is ready to it, that is how the nature invented it for us. I think that seeing two people of age of 15 that want to get intimate as criminals is silly...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-05-2014 11:46
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Ian Butler wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I will never get the fact that you can drive a car by 16 and drink by 21 in USA, can it get any more stupid?
Driving doesn't cause brain damage at a young age, but consuming alcohol can.
Listen to this guy, he's got a good point
Though I also think 16 is too early to drive a car. Undeveloped brains can't asses risks enough to drive a car.
I say you should be the age of 25 for both drinking and driving. (Drinking actually should be illigal, but that's not realistic in our society)
Drinking illegal, why the hell Ian? Why people need boundaries for everything, let them be free and do what they want. Somebody wants to drink himself to death? His choice, even if stupid though...
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 14-05-2014 11:58
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Went to bed, just woke up and...jeez... Look at what I started. 
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 14-05-2014 12:02
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25 is just too late for both driving and alcohol. None of these can cause any damages if you're being normal and not doing some stupid stuff with them.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 14-05-2014 12:03
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Ok we are definitely into Difficult Topics territory now
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-05-2014 12:04
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admirschleck wrote:
25 is just too late for both driving and alcohol. None of these can cause any damages if you're being normal and not doing some stupid stuff with them.
Problem is that many can't act "normal' and not to stupid stuff until their brains are properly developed, and that's about the age of 25
Also, I actually think driving a car should requite more than just an easy-to-get driver's license. Like a psychology test or something.
Or at least tougher sentences for drunk and risky drivers.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 12:09
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Ian Butler wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
25 is just too late for both driving and alcohol. None of these can cause any damages if you're being normal and not doing some stupid stuff with them.
Problem is that many can't act "normal' and not to stupid stuff until their brains are properly developed, and that's about the age of 25
Also, I actually think driving a car should requite more than just an easy-to-get driver's license. Like a psychology test or something.
Or at least tougher sentences for drunk and risky drivers.
If you're stupid enough to drink yourself to death, then so be it. Society should educate people to make informed decisions but not control them, in my opinion. Agree with you about tougher sentences though.
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 12:14
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^Exactly! We don't have to live in a world "designed" for stupid people, it can't be that way..... On the other side, it can happen to any of us to have an accident, due to some stupid drunk asshole, and get some serious injury or even death. That way, our opinion will change... This is one for the Difficult Topics thread.
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 14-05-2014 12:16
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Joining this; our age of sex is 14. Most of the Amish are married by then. Driving is as soon as you can work the tractor. Road driving is still 16 though, without a tractor. Our entire society is based around tractors and bikes for the Amish/Mennonites.
EDIT: Also, my Italian heritage made me start drinking wine at 3. Yes, 3. I've grown so accustomed to alcohol, I don't even taste it except in vodka. Wine just tastes like grape juice to me.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 14-05-2014 15:36
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I almost never drink (but when I do, it isn't much), never drove a car (it's safer for everybody and I don't make national news) #responsible
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 19:37
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NTTHRASH wrote:
Joining this; our age of sex is 14. Most of the Amish are married by then. Driving is as soon as you can work the tractor. Road driving is still 16 though, without a tractor. Our entire society is based around tractors and bikes for the Amish/Mennonites.
EDIT: Also, my Italian heritage made me start drinking wine at 3. Yes, 3. I've grown so accustomed to alcohol, I don't even taste it except in vodka. Wine just tastes like grape juice to me.
Pennsylvania is a weirder place then I thought. it is 16-17 in most of the US iirc.
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 14-05-2014 19:42
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baseballlover312 wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
Joining this; our age of sex is 14. Most of the Amish are married by then. Driving is as soon as you can work the tractor. Road driving is still 16 though, without a tractor. Our entire society is based around tractors and bikes for the Amish/Mennonites.
EDIT: Also, my Italian heritage made me start drinking wine at 3. Yes, 3. I've grown so accustomed to alcohol, I don't even taste it except in vodka. Wine just tastes like grape juice to me.
Pennsylvania is a weirder place then I thought. it is 16-17 in most of the US iirc.
It is. As I stated immediately after though, it's 99% because of the Amish. Didn't matter much though, still got laid at 13.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 20:02
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NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
Joining this; our age of sex is 14. Most of the Amish are married by then. Driving is as soon as you can work the tractor. Road driving is still 16 though, without a tractor. Our entire society is based around tractors and bikes for the Amish/Mennonites.
EDIT: Also, my Italian heritage made me start drinking wine at 3. Yes, 3. I've grown so accustomed to alcohol, I don't even taste it except in vodka. Wine just tastes like grape juice to me.
Pennsylvania is a weirder place then I thought. it is 16-17 in most of the US iirc.
It is. As I stated immediately after though, it's 99% because of the Amish. Didn't matter much though, still got laid at 13.
Wow. i can't even imagination that. Still in Middle School. God.
Two different people I guess. My friends and I are kind of outcasts. Maybe we're behind the times for what we should be doing in high school. none of us do drugs, drink and only one of us even has a girlfriend.
I guess I just don't see it because I've grown up with everybody in my grade so I still see us all as the little kids we were at 7. Since my friend group hasn't really changed in those ways, I don't see how others have that clearly.
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Posted on 14-05-2014 20:18
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Pennsylvania is NOT a weird place.. Only the south east part of the state where the amish are is where it gets weird. the West and East are 2 totally different things
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 20:51
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baseballlover312 wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
Joining this; our age of sex is 14. Most of the Amish are married by then. Driving is as soon as you can work the tractor. Road driving is still 16 though, without a tractor. Our entire society is based around tractors and bikes for the Amish/Mennonites.
EDIT: Also, my Italian heritage made me start drinking wine at 3. Yes, 3. I've grown so accustomed to alcohol, I don't even taste it except in vodka. Wine just tastes like grape juice to me.
Pennsylvania is a weirder place then I thought. it is 16-17 in most of the US iirc.
It is. As I stated immediately after though, it's 99% because of the Amish. Didn't matter much though, still got laid at 13.
Wow. i can't even imagination that. Still in Middle School. God.
Two different people I guess. My friends and I are kind of outcasts. Maybe we're behind the times for what we should be doing in high school. none of us do drugs, drink and only one of us even has a girlfriend.
I guess I just don't see it because I've grown up with everybody in my grade so I still see us all as the little kids we were at 7. Since my friend group hasn't really changed in those ways, I don't see how others have that clearly.
The best (and maybe) only advice I can give in life is that you should always look to make new friends in different circles and stuff like that.
Making new friends changes your outlook on life, and I think that is normally a good thing. Its easy to stay friends with people you have spent your whole life with, but once one of my best friends just drifted away from the whole group I started to realize I often thought about what that one group would think of me if I did a certain action, and now I regret not doing things that I could have, but decided against because of what they would think.
*Related to what you wrote but not necessarily directed at you baseball
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 21:02
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valverde321 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
Joining this; our age of sex is 14. Most of the Amish are married by then. Driving is as soon as you can work the tractor. Road driving is still 16 though, without a tractor. Our entire society is based around tractors and bikes for the Amish/Mennonites.
EDIT: Also, my Italian heritage made me start drinking wine at 3. Yes, 3. I've grown so accustomed to alcohol, I don't even taste it except in vodka. Wine just tastes like grape juice to me.
Pennsylvania is a weirder place then I thought. it is 16-17 in most of the US iirc.
It is. As I stated immediately after though, it's 99% because of the Amish. Didn't matter much though, still got laid at 13.
Wow. i can't even imagination that. Still in Middle School. God.
Two different people I guess. My friends and I are kind of outcasts. Maybe we're behind the times for what we should be doing in high school. none of us do drugs, drink and only one of us even has a girlfriend.
I guess I just don't see it because I've grown up with everybody in my grade so I still see us all as the little kids we were at 7. Since my friend group hasn't really changed in those ways, I don't see how others have that clearly.
The best (and maybe) only advice I can give in life is that you should always look to make new friends in different circles and stuff like that.
Making new friends changes your outlook on life, and I think that is normally a good thing. Its easy to stay friends with people you have spent your whole life with, but once one of my best friends just drifted away from the whole group I started to realize I often thought about what that one group would think of me if I did a certain action, and now I regret not doing things that I could have, but decided against because of what they would think.
*Related to what you wrote but not necessarily directed at you baseball
I read the last sentence, but I'll respond anyway.
That's what they always tell us but I think it relates more to the opposite situation of mine, or at least that's what I've always heard of.
I mean, the whole reason I even have friends is because I don't really fit into any group. We are outcasts but not the abnormal stereotypical types. So we just became friends and I never have thought about switching groups because I enjoy life more with these friends.
Because me and my friends are never judgmental or anything. i think we're all just perfectly content with eating beef jerky and saying your mom jokes as we play Timesplitters 2 in my basement at midnight. I'd rather being doing that than getting drunk, even if it's not the popular choice.
And yes, that is what most (actually all) of the "parties" me and my friends go to are like. We don't go to any others.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 14-05-2014 21:18
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baseballlover312 wrote:
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I read the last sentence, but I'll respond anyway.
That's what they always tell us but I think it relates more to the opposite situation of mine, or at least that's what I've always heard of.
I mean, the whole reason I even have friends is because I don't really fit into any group. We are outcasts but not the abnormal stereotypical types. So we just became friends and I never have thought about switching groups because I enjoy life more with these friends.
Because me and my friends are never judgmental or anything. i think we're all just perfectly content with eating beef jerky and saying your mom jokes as we play Timesplitters 2 in my basement at midnight. I'd rather being doing that than getting drunk, even if it's not the popular choice.
And yes, that is what most (actually all) of the "parties" me and my friends go to are like. We don't go to any others.
For me, my friends were pretty judgemental about if they thought someone was "cool" so even though I basically like everyone I kind of put up a wall anyway.
The thing I realize is the people they thought less of are actually just as cool or even cooler than them, and I've made a lot more friends since I stopped worrying about keeping my closest circle of friends together/with the same people for years.
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