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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-08-2009 16:07
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Will the puncheurs attack away or will the sprinters hold on and sprint it out? The course favours the puncheurs, but you never know!
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Festina
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Virgin Media
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Rabobank
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Domina Vacanze
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British Airways
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B&O
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Warner Bros.
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Posted on 25-08-2009 17:43
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LL Sanchez looks to win his second consecutive race, and if it comes down to a sprint between the hard men, then hopefully Bakelants will be there and unleash a fast finishing kick. But i gotta think Pozzato or Hagen are favorites
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Posted on 25-08-2009 17:52
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stemple wrote:
LL Sanchez looks to win his second consecutive race, and if it comes down to a sprint between the hard men, then hopefully Bakelants will be there and unleash a fast finishing kick. But i gotta think Pozzato or Hagen are favorites
Make that Pozzato as favourite, Hagen isnt riding
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Posted on 25-08-2009 18:46
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SportingNonsense wrote:
stemple wrote:
LL Sanchez looks to win his second consecutive race, and if it comes down to a sprint between the hard men, then hopefully Bakelants will be there and unleash a fast finishing kick. But i gotta think Pozzato or Hagen are favorites
Make that Pozzato as favourite, Hagen isnt riding
Why on earth is Hagen not riding this race, it seems taylor made for him.
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Posted on 25-08-2009 18:56
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stemple wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
stemple wrote:
LL Sanchez looks to win his second consecutive race, and if it comes down to a sprint between the hard men, then hopefully Bakelants will be there and unleash a fast finishing kick. But i gotta think Pozzato or Hagen are favorites
Make that Pozzato as favourite, Hagen isnt riding
Why on earth is Hagen not riding this race, it seems taylor made for him.
Tirreno, CI and Basque Tour seemed tailor-made for Hagen...
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Posted on 25-08-2009 18:58
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If Hagen was mine, I wouldn't have wasted his days on stage races  All the hilly classics first and foremost. His TT isn't good enough.
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Posted on 25-08-2009 18:59
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A_Schleck wrote:
stemple wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
stemple wrote:
LL Sanchez looks to win his second consecutive race, and if it comes down to a sprint between the hard men, then hopefully Bakelants will be there and unleash a fast finishing kick. But i gotta think Pozzato or Hagen are favorites
Make that Pozzato as favourite, Hagen isnt riding
Why on earth is Hagen not riding this race, it seems taylor made for him.
Tirreno, CI and Basque Tour seemed tailor-made for Hagen...
Yeah but this one you would think would see a group of hilly riders go to the finish, and Hagen with a handy sprint would be a big favorite, as opposed to just hilly races.
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Posted on 25-08-2009 19:01
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I'd expect that in the Basque Tour aswell..
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Posted on 25-08-2009 19:33
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i would have to say that criterium international is a tricky race bc it tends to have a small number of hilly riders get away (not always the best riders) and then it comes down to the TT for the other spots. but, should be interesting and fairly unpredictable
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Posted on 25-08-2009 20:21
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4th is a great result for Pellizotti, although a tad annoying to have led up to 300m to go and end up 4th 
And wow, Sijmens effectively 8th in the bunch sprint with Barth also top 30.
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Posted on 25-08-2009 20:25
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wow rabobank is steamrolling now 
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Posted on 25-08-2009 20:58
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Aww! Having almost caught up with Rabobank in Paris-Roubaix this makes them move easily into 1st again I guess...
Having said that 8th and 13th is decent. Thor did much better than I would've thought and Samuel was unfortunate not to get into the right group fighting for podium. Still a good run, and we are still in the top of PT I guess |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 25-08-2009 21:12
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Rabobank is simply much too strong so far... |
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Posted on 25-08-2009 21:17
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mrlol wrote:
Rabobank is simply much too strong so far...
Yeah. Hopefully we can get them to fail at some point this season. As I see it they have used quite a lot of racedays already for the likes of Steegmans, Gesink and Sanchez Gil, who by far are their strongest riders... But let's see. We might have a huge tactical genious there, and then they can be hard fought!
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Posted on 25-08-2009 22:14
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SotD wrote:
Aww! Having almost caught up with Rabobank in Paris-Roubaix this makes them move easily into 1st again I guess...
Rabobank were still over 200 pts ahead of you after Roubaix 
And i think Samuel Sanchez is probably the most raced of the team leaders so far
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Posted on 25-08-2009 23:00
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Rankings:
While Wikipedia did retake the lead after Paris-Roubaix, Rabobank storm back ahead thanks to their 1-2 and are holding a good lead at this stage. Warner Brothers made the most of the cobbles to go 3rd but are now back below Festina with Lipton Ice Tea up to 5th. Other than Eurosport who continue in their attempts to catch up, it remains very tight at the bottom end of the table.
1 Rabobank 2912
2 Wikipedia 2677
3 Festina - Seiko 2424
4 Warner Brothers 2358
5 Lipton Ice Tea 2129
6 La Gazzetta dello Sport 2031
7 Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 1887
8 Philips - Hummel 1653
9 Crédit Lyonnais 1631
10 Unicef RT 1592
11 Domina Vacanze 1589
12 SIC Radical - Timberland 1482
13 Team B&O 1372
14 American Suzuki 1362
15 Accumalux-Huez 1361
16 White Bear - Wild Horse 1319
17 British Airways - Martini 1284
18 Eurosport 934
Individually, Boonen is still the leader, with Burghardt now up to 2nd and Ballan and Pozzato into the Top 5, all benefiting from the cobbles. With 3 riders in the Top 11, you can see why Rabobank are doing so well at this stage
1 Tom Boonen BEL Warner Brothers 1048
2 Marcus Burghardt GER Wikipedia 867
3 Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez ESP Festina - Seiko 795
4 Alessandro Ballan ITA SIC Radical - Timberland 715
5 Filippo Pozzato ITA Crédit Lyonnais 693
6 Daniele Bennati ITA La Gazzetta dello Sport 684
7 Robert Gesink NED Rabobank 676
8 David Zabriskie USA Wikipedia 662
9 Fabian Cancellara SWI Unicef RT 644
10 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil ESP Rabobank 617
11 Gert Steegmans BEL Rabobank 612
12 Frank Schleck LUX Accumalux-Huez 562
13 Jérôme Baugnies BEL Lipton Ice Tea 472
14 Nick Nuyens BEL Domina Vacanze 443
15 Sylvain Chavanel FRA British Airways - Martini 425
16 Vincenzo Nibali ITA Domina Vacanze 421
17 Lars Boom NED Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 416
18 Przemyslaw Niemiec POL Lipton Ice Tea 385
19 Lars Croket BEL White Bear - Wild Horse 380
20 Frederik Nolf BEL Festina - Seiko 337
21 Andrey Kashechkin KAZ Lipton Ice Tea 330
22 Edvald Boasson Hagen NOR Team B&O 329
23 Thor Hushovd NOR Festina - Seiko 322
24 Maxime Vantomme BEL Philips - Hummel 317
25 Juan-Antonio Flecha ESP Warner Brothers 304
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SotD wrote:
mrlol wrote:
Rabobank is simply much too strong so far...
Yeah. Hopefully we can get them to fail at some point this season. As I see it they have used quite a lot of racedays already for the likes of Steegmans, Gesink and Sanchez Gil, who by far are their strongest riders... But let's see. We might have a huge tactical genious there, and then they can be hard fought!
Bravo so far, Bravo!
actually we have used hardly any race days. Gesink has only ridden in Paris-Nice and Crit. international (winning Crit and coming 2nd in PN, while LL Sanchez has ridden pais vasco and Koln (winning both). Steegmans has been the most ridden having taken part in Qatar, MSR, Monte Eroica, Omloop, Ronde, Gent Wevlegem, and Roubaix. But of course he has the most race days of the 3. We have just been really efficient.
While i would assume Sammy Sanchez has used a fair bit of his days, having competed in MSR, Tirreno, Crit Int., Pais vasco, and Koln.
But with all that said, i don't forsee us keeping it up. But hey, coming into the season, my goal was to avoid relegation.
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SportingNonsense wrote:
SotD wrote:
Aww! Having almost caught up with Rabobank in Paris-Roubaix this makes them move easily into 1st again I guess...
Rabobank were still over 200 pts ahead of you after Roubaix
And i think Samuel Sanchez is probably the most raced of the team leaders so far
Yeah I can see that now... The last couple of races has only increased the gaps of the 3 leaders.
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Posted on 26-08-2009 08:46
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stemple wrote:
SotD wrote:
mrlol wrote:
Rabobank is simply much too strong so far...
Yeah. Hopefully we can get them to fail at some point this season. As I see it they have used quite a lot of racedays already for the likes of Steegmans, Gesink and Sanchez Gil, who by far are their strongest riders... But let's see. We might have a huge tactical genious there, and then they can be hard fought!
Bravo so far, Bravo!
actually we have used hardly any race days. Gesink has only ridden in Paris-Nice and Crit. international (winning Crit and coming 2nd in PN, while LL Sanchez has ridden pais vasco and Koln (winning both). Steegmans has been the most ridden having taken part in Qatar, MSR, Monte Eroica, Omloop, Ronde, Gent Wevlegem, and Roubaix. But of course he has the most race days of the 3. We have just been really efficient.
While i would assume Sammy Sanchez has used a fair bit of his days, having competed in MSR, Tirreno, Crit Int., Pais vasco, and Koln.
But with all that said, i don't forsee us keeping it up. But hey, coming into the season, my goal was to avoid relegation.
Indeed, your team has cleaned the plate every time they were eating...
You are hardly a relegation battling team. Far from that... If you are not in the top 5 by the end of the season I would be extremely surprised
But ofcourse it's difficult to say, since the 3 GT's are giving shitloads of points to a team like La Gazzetta with Damiano Cunego. Hopefully the new PCM will make the stages go to some other riders from time to another instead of making the strongest win it all.. So far it looks promising.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 26-08-2009 08:52
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stemple wrote:
SotD wrote:
mrlol wrote:
Rabobank is simply much too strong so far...
Yeah. Hopefully we can get them to fail at some point this season. As I see it they have used quite a lot of racedays already for the likes of Steegmans, Gesink and Sanchez Gil, who by far are their strongest riders... But let's see. We might have a huge tactical genious there, and then they can be hard fought!
Bravo so far, Bravo!
But with all that said, i don't forsee us keeping it up. But hey, coming into the season, my goal was to avoid relegation.
You're still not too optimistic about it huh? What'll make you say; 'Hey, top 3 must be doable!' ??? |
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