Hi!
I have a few questions about the custom team function;
1. How do you prefer to set up your team? One really good sprinter and one really good climber while the rest of the team can hardly get on their bikes without swetting or an even team?
Example:
Team 1: A sprinter and a climber both with an average of 78-80 while the rest are 50-something.
Team 2: A more balanced team where everyone are about 70.
2. How bad do I have to perform to be fired from my team? My three main goals are leading climber in Georgia Road (my climber is John-Lee Augustyn), leading sprinter in California Road (allready accomplished) and a win in a CTT-classic in August (dont remember the name). Is there a chance that I will be fired if I dont complete all the goals?
Personaly I think that the goals for the custom teams are to hard to accomplish with a wage budget around £90
I'd suggest having a more balanced team, if You have a few bvery good riders and nobody able to help them due to low stats, they're not gonna achieve much anyway. Custom team is something You build up for a few seasons, thinking more about developing the squad and not getting fired for the first few years, rather than making it to the Pro Tour.
When it comes to the sponsor's goals, you're quite lucky actually. Mine are 5th place in Romandie and 3rd in Tour de Pologne... So yes, I do think they are over exaggerated. But if You manage to get some good results in other races it shouldn't be all that bad (I guess)... Try to focus on lower ranked races during the grand tours (like Bayern Rundfahrt during the Giro) - all the main favourites are in the grand tours, so You'll find those ravces easiest to win.
Edited by Smoku on 11-08-2009 08:36
As far as I know you will get kicked at the 2nd of december if your account is negative. Maybe you get kicked too if you have very low sponsor hapiness (but I cannot tell as I always have very high hapiness). I guess that would happen at the 15th of October.
If the hapiness is below the average you will get less money in the next season but will not be kicked.
If I understood correctly the sponsor hapiness is only calculated using the super prestige ranking. So you don't have to care about the sponsor goals of your primary sponsor. Just make sure that you are high in the ranking and you will get more money next season.
In my custom team I went for 1 super tour rider, a handful of Lieutenants and small tour riders, and a load of cheapo guys to fetch water!
Brad Wiggins - Leader for the main sponsor goals
David Millar, Nicholas Roche - Leaders who can win some smaller races or get stage wins in the hills or time trials depending on specialisation
Charlie Wegelius - Main Mountain Lieutenant
Svein Tuft, JL Augustyn, Dan Martin and Chris Froome - Good domestiques (+ Tuft can win TTs)
plus others various to take the squad up to 20 riders.
Sponsor Goals:
Top 5 Tour of the Algarve - completed by Roche or Millar, can't remember
Top 5 in the US Open of Cycling - completed by Roche
Win the Tour De Suisse - completed by Wiggins
Top 10 Trofeo Melinda
Top 5 Tour of Portugal
Top 10 in the Tour of Britain
So I managed to put together a team with 1 superstar, and about 7 guys with low 70s averages, with 12 others. But really its about finding specialists. Roche, for example, whilst he doesn't have a great average, he has got a good hill stat (76) and OK sprint stat (73), so in the Continental tour he can win loads of races with sprint finishes at the end over rolling countryside! Millar and Tuft have excellent TT stats, and can hammer most of the opposition in the CT. Millar can win stage races by hanging on in the hills and demolishing the TT!
Lachi wrote:
If I understood correctly the sponsor hapiness is only calculated using the super prestige ranking.
What? That means that small and big teams are dealt with identically. This can not be true. Sponsors of, say, Auber 93 should happier than sponsors of Barloworld if the team has achived x superprestige ranking points.
Either I'm misinterpreting you or this is the stupidest programming ever.
Of course you are misinterpreting. I said "using the super prestige ranking".
Copied from Cyandide Forum:
Eyolfur wrote:
At the beginning of the season, the team levels are evaluated, and it gives a percentage of points to gather to satisfy the sponsors. Eg, a team like Astana should make e.g 5% of all the superprestige points, where as a Bretagne schuller should make less than 0,5%.
If you skipped the January race, and especially a protour race like TDU, you don't have a lot of points, and then the sponsor confidence might be unhappy, even if you succeed on your first race.
Keep in mind that the sponsor confidence is only important at the end of the season. You might stay in a very bad confidence during the whole season and make a lot of points in september, it would count as if you where average during the season.
The sponsor confidence is just an indication of what the sponsor think of your results. If you plan to make points later in the season, don't bother the confidence before.
In my team I have a created rider (sprinter-stats are about 81, the rest are somewhere around 70), David Millar, Augustyn, Julian Dean and Daryl Impey as my best riders. 4-5 of my riders have about 63, while about 5 have just 54.
Of course I treat the first five like leaders and the rest are simply there to get water and fill out the numbers.
I won 7 stages in Californian Road, got the green jersey and held the leaders jersey for every stage, but lost it to a rider in a breakaway on the last stage (came in 2nd, though ) and I did ok in the Tour Down Under, so my two first months were very good. My sponsors happiness was through the roof! In March I won just one classic with Millar, but participated in a few more races. At the end of the month my sponsors were back to average Edited by cactus-jack on 11-08-2009 15:50
Lachi wrote:
Of course you are misinterpreting. I said "using the super prestige ranking".
Copied from Cyandide Forum:
Eyolfur wrote:
At the beginning of the season, the team levels are evaluated, and it gives a percentage of points to gather to satisfy the sponsors. Eg, a team like Astana should make e.g 5% of all the superprestige points, where as a Bretagne schuller should make less than 0,5%.
If you skipped the January race, and especially a protour race like TDU, you don't have a lot of points, and then the sponsor confidence might be unhappy, even if you succeed on your first race.
Keep in mind that the sponsor confidence is only important at the end of the season. You might stay in a very bad confidence during the whole season and make a lot of points in september, it would count as if you where average during the season.
The sponsor confidence is just an indication of what the sponsor think of your results. If you plan to make points later in the season, don't bother the confidence before.
I suppose these percentages of superprestige points needed for each team are listed somewhere in the DB... Anybody got an idea where they are to check what exactly are we talking about? Or are those figures 5% 0.5% taken completely from the roof?
