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Riders stats limits. Strange discovery
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Posted on 25-12-2024 16:11
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-08-2009 14:04
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After a year or two in my PPDB career, I noticed a lot of riders were having over 80 in hills.
Apart from hills, all other stats were still pretty normal. So I started to check the savegame for the limits of all riders.
While at climbing, tt, sprint and cobbles, everything is very normal, finally not anymore 50 riders with above 80 climbing, that era seems over.
But then I checked hills, and there were no less than 25 (!!!!) riders with 85 hill as limit ,even riders with now 62 hill as current stat.
I thought it might be the DB, so I checked the same after 1 day in career with PCM.Daily DB, PCM Benelux DB and even the officialrelease with the normal local.cdb
Guess what? Yup, exactly the same problem, everyone with enormous hill stats as limits.
I'm guessing this is some left over bug with this game?
Does anyone else have this in their careers? You can check it by getting into your savegame with the hannes converter. Even after 1 day you can already check the riders limits. |
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| mindplay |
Posted on 06-08-2009 14:15
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Well, in my games theres always loads of 80+ downhillers, hills has 4 guys with 85 (schlek visconti velits cunego), theres about 25 with a 80+ on hills and about the same for mountain..
Edited by mindplay on 06-08-2009 14:15
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-08-2009 14:18
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Well that's there actual stats, check your savegame for the limits. I even see that guys with potential 2 and potential 3 have 85 as hill stat limit.
That can't be right...Cyanide must have fucked up somewhere |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 14:18
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Perhaps toying around with the YoungRiderCarac settings can do something about this? |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 14:35
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No it doesn't.
The youngriderCarac is for scouted riders (age 18 to 21) and defines the probabilty of their starting stats being between certain limits. It doesn't define anything about statpotential limits.
It just seems an error in programming in the parameter for hills to me.
Edited by ruben on 06-08-2009 14:36
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| Roo |
Posted on 06-08-2009 14:35
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CrueTrue wrote:
Perhaps toying around with the YoungRiderCarac settings can do something about this?
Well, I don't see the YoungRiderCarac xmls encouraging this problem. According to ardennaises.xml only guys with potential 7/8 will have the possibility to end up in the 83-85 hills bracket.
This problem seems very odd. My brother experienced it as well on his game. Three seasons in, guys with 3 potential had 80+ in hills. Also stamina seemes to skyrocket in his game |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 14:39
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Edit: ah, missed the potentialmax in the youngridercarac.
But then: what Roo says. |
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| Inferio |
Posted on 06-08-2009 14:44
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I solve this problem by editing column limit_i_hill or limit_i_endurance and others in my savegame file... |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 14:49
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In my game i have only 1 guy with limit 85 its Di Luca then i have more 31 riders with a limit of 80 or more
Edited by fintas on 06-08-2009 15:00
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-08-2009 15:02
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Inferio wrote:
I solve this problem by editing column limit_i_hill or limit_i_endurance and others in my savegame file... fuck that, I'm not doing that. Do you have any idea how many riders have completely off-the-chart limits?
And every year a new crop of talents comes you can change it again.
Something is not working in youngridercarac. Cyanide should fix their mistakes. |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 15:03
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ruben wrote:
Well that's there actual stats, check your savegame for the limits. I even see that guys with potential 2 and potential 3 have 85 as hill stat limit.
That can't be right...Cyanide must have fucked up somewhere actualy that are their limits. guys with averages of 67 getting 82 downhill *im at 2012 and used charac evo of 50 so they al reached their limits by now* |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 15:15
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I'm looking into a way to fix this without cyanide, although that will probably not work.
I hate these wrong limits, for me that sucks the fun right out of a career |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 17:06
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I've got some good news and some bad news.
The good news?
The bug doesn't happen in the official, patched game with the official DB.
The bad news?
It happens in the PCM.Daily DB and all deravatives (PPDB).
So probably the best thing to do is go back step by step and base the DB on the official 1.0.3.3. one. |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 20:11
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One thing: The PCMBenelux DB isn't based on the PCM.daily DB, yet it still happens in that one too.
Also, for the next PCM.daily DB, I did 'start over' with the Official 1.0.3.3 DB. I'll make a test later today. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-08-2009 20:16
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I know it happens in the PCM Benelux DB too. I just don't know why.
1 thing is sure, it does NOT happen in the officialrelease. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-08-2009 20:19
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And another peace of news, it happens in the electrozenshu db too.
So the only DB where it didn't happen so far, was the original patch 1.0.3.3. one 
edit: I think it has something to do with the local.cdb by the way. Gonna do one final retest to be sure
Edited by ruben on 06-08-2009 20:24
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-08-2009 20:32
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JACKPOT!!!!!
Electrozenshu DB -> without edited local.cdb =
No freak hill stats
PCM Daily DB -> without edited local.cdb =
No freak hill stats
And when I did the PCM Benelux DB test, I had the PCM Daily local.cdb installed. So it's logical I got the same thing
The Electrozenshu db also comes with edited local.cdb, and the same bug happens as with PCM.Daily
So in short, there is something wrong with the local.cdb causing the bug |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 20:49
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Just ran a test on the latest (not released) version of the PCM.daily DB. It's based on the patched base database from Cyanide, and apparently, the bug is not present here.
So, good news  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-08-2009 20:56
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throw online that local.cdb would you, I want to play with the expansionpack rather than this cyanide shit |
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Posted on 06-08-2009 21:01
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the bug doesnt happen for my ppdb install. Are you sure it's not an install error somewhere.
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