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| ruben |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:13
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ollowing the announcement made by UCI President Pat McQuaid in Paris on 10 June, and after having informed all the parties concerned (riders, National Federations, teams, National Anti-Doping Organisations and the World Anti-Doping Agency), the International Cycling Union announces that disciplinary procedures have been requested against the following riders for apparent violation of the Anti-Doping Rules on the basis of the information provided by the blood profile in their biological passports:
* Igor Astarloa Ascasibar (ESP)
* Pietro Caucchioli (ITA)
* Francesco De Bonis (ITA)
* Ruben Lobato Elvira (ESP)
* Ricardo Serrano Gonzalez (ESP)
The UCI emphasises that these proceedings are being initiated as a result of the recommendations of the independent experts appointed when the biological passport programme was launched.
Since the introduction of this new programme, the regular analysis of individual profiles has not only led to the proceedings described above, but has also confirmed the result of sample analysis for riders who have tested positive for prohibited substances such as EPO and CERA and has allowed increasingly effective targeting of riders for out-of-competition anti-doping controls.
However, an assessment of the first year of the era of the biological passport would not be complete without mentioning the very encouraging fact that the overall analysis of the individual profiles of some 840 riders in the programme shows that a very large majority of their profiles do not display any anomalies.
The UCI is confident that the information obtained from the new approach, based on the indirect detection of doping practices, will greatly reduce the possibility of that cheating in the future by any athlete who decides to disrespect the rules of the sport remains undetected.
Furthermore, the UCI is aware that today's announcement is a very important step in the battle against doping. The UCI is proud, once more, to be the pioneering international federation in this field. After the introduction of blood tests in 1997 and the EPO detection test in 2001, it is now through the biological passport that the UCI is confronting the scourge of doping.
Although times are still difficult, this new step in anti-doping represents the dawn of a new future for cycling and sport in general. With this in mind, the UCI congratulates those who provided the inspiration for this groundbreaking initiative and also thanks all parties who have contributed to developing the biological passport (teams, organisers, riders and associations as well as scientific and sporting bodies) and who still offer their full and continuing support.
Each rider mentioned above shall be accorded the right to the presumption of innocence until a final decision has been made on this matter. Under the World Anti-Doping Code and the UCI Anti-Doping Rules, the UCI is unable to provide any additional information at this time.
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| The Mountain Lion |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:16
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God damit! no Contador
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:17
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The alternative view which we've all heard from Kohl a week or so ago -
"The top riders are so professional in their doping that they know very well they have to keep their blood values stable [so as] not to be detected. The UCI sent us the values resulting from the controls: we thus referred to those to mark the next ones. In a way, the passport almost helped us." |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:17
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issoisso wrote:
Duuh. It'll be middle-of-the-pack riders only, I'm guessing. No stars.
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Posted on 17-06-2009 15:17
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I liked De Bonis
... still do untill proven guilty! |
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| ruben |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:18
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Astarloa was a world champion Isso  |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:19
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Yes, in 2003. And has done nothing notably since. |
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| Setzel |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:19
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And where is he now ?
Amica Chips-Knauf that shows that was an "accident" his win 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:19
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Ruben wrote:
was
a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
Anyway, that's the 4th Lampre guy in 12 months.
*Cue Cunego fans saying Cunego is clean* |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:24
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issoisso wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Duuh. It'll be middle-of-the-pack riders only, I'm guessing. No stars.
You should be relieved.
All the cash they've spent on this program over the last year or so has cleaned cycling up.
This surely means everyone else is clean... |
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| Rinhoth |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:33
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No one so far commented on it only being spanish and italian cyclists... surprise? think not..
If children have the ability to ignore all odds and percentages, then maybe we can all learn from them. When you think about it, what other choice is there but to hope? We have two options, medically and emotionally: give up, or Fight Like Hell.
-Lance Armstrong
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:35
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fenian_1234 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Duuh. It'll be middle-of-the-pack riders only, I'm guessing. No stars.
You should be relieved.
All the cash they've spent on this program over the last year or so has cleaned cycling up.
This surely means everyone else is clean...
According to Martial Saugy everyone's blood values this year are slightly more human. Still superhuman though |
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| ruben |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:36
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Ofcourse not rinhoth, it's clear that EPO and blood dope is only for the southern-europeans. The Germans have already cleaned up their stuff. Occasionally some Austrians get caught. And France, Holland, Belgium and Luxemburg bar Fränk Schleck probably do not dope, or do it much better organized |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:39
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Ruben wrote:
do it much better organized |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 17-06-2009 15:40
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Look, all Spanish and Italian.
Suprise!
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-06-2009 16:01
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And for the "most riders are clean because I don't want to believe in bad things" crowd, notice how these riders despite the dope, are not only very average, but ONE OF THEM CAN'T EVEN GET A FUCKING CONTRACT.
That is all
In fact, no, that is not all. I'm going to go get a Dankan post from a few months ago, talking about Cobo:
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The Spanish verb for it makes the explanation simplier: "Arrasar". He was too good to be reliable, but they didn't get him.
It's reasonable to think he's a dopehead, because of the team he was part of.
But those cases from Piepoli and Riccò, who were in a completely different "way" Cobo was, aren't measurable. They have nothing to do with the team, and neither did Cobo.
Matxin has taken no risks to build the new team. [Dankan is referring to Fuji-Servetto]
He wanted to sign Koldo Gil, but had to take a step backwards because of his past experiences (OP).
Then Fabio Duarte, who wasn't reliable until the UCI sent a press release, taking any doping charge out of him.
And now people criticize them because they're making weird transfers (clean riders), while no youngsters are promoted (the most interesting ones are dopeheads) and people like Rubén Lobato (you'll understand this: "Rubén BOMBAto", he's a bomb ) aren't renewed.
I remember this well because my response to him was that from the transfers, it didn't look to me like Matxin was going for clean riders (I remember at the time the guys I was specifically thinking of were Tonti, Serrano and Shpilevsky)
EDIT: reformatted the post to include paragraphs. it was hard to read before
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 17-06-2009 16:35
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Everyone on that list was linked to doping before and/or released from a team before contract ended (de Bonis, Astarloa). No surprises.
I've just read that R.Serrano ended the TdS.
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| JDC |
Posted on 17-06-2009 16:37
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Ruben wrote:
And France, Holland, Belgium and Luxemburg bar Fränk Schleck probably do not dope, or do it much better organized
Judging by the results of the riders of these countries, I'd say most of them don't dope. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 17-06-2009 16:39
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We all suck |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 17-06-2009 16:50
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I normally don't talk about doping. It's kind of an useless subject. However, today I'm quite talkative. First of all, I think that the peloton is cleaner in a general way. However, I still believe that top riders are still doping, even if in an smaller scale. And I still believe that top riders get a double advantage: first of all, they are protected by the UCI, so they can dope without a lot of risk (it is always strange that only a few top riders are caught, when you could think that there is a higher percentage of doping between the elite), and second of all, they can use higher quality of doping (in terms of detection probability and enhancing properties).
I feel it is a shame when a lot of european fans think that south american cyclists are doping in a higher scale that european ones (normally the expression is kind of "south american dopehead" or something like that). If that was the case, you would find it weird that in the present you can't find any south american rider in the elite, while in the 80's there were quite a few, like Parra, Herrera, Wilches. What happened after that? Did south americans lose their climbing abilities? Did europeans magically got better via training? I myself can't accept that south american riders who grew up in mountains, weight less than 55 kg and have trained more than their previous generation mates are suddenly beaten up by heavier europeans in their pwn speciality (while still sucking at TTs, btw).
I'm not defending in any way doping of south americans. I really dismiss Botero and Rujano (Gobernación del Zulia is one of the teams which didn't even sign the ethical pact with the UCI, for example), and I still think south americans dope too, but I'm afraid that this supposed fight against doping it's just taking away some middle class riders while keeping the whole problem, specially the fact that you are just ignoring some riders who can have access to better doping techniques and, in my opinion, that is even more unfair with riders from emerging countries than no fight against doping at all. That is not the way things should be done, I think.
Edited by Ildabaoth on 17-06-2009 16:51
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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