|
Getting Bottles
|
| fuzy |
Posted on 14-03-2009 17:53
|
Amateur
Posts: 10
Joined: 09-11-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
What are your tactics for getting bottles on windy days? |
| |
|
|
| Waghlon |
Posted on 14-03-2009 17:59
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7694
Joined: 18-08-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Send a guy. If he fails, send another.
Keep doing that until you either get bottles or get desperate. not a very good tactic i know...
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
 |
| |
|
|
| alexkr00 |
Posted on 14-03-2009 18:11
|
World Champion
Posts: 13946
Joined: 05-08-2008
PCM$: 300.00
|
Waghlon wrote:
Send a guy. If he fails, send another.
Keep doing that until you either get bottles or get desperate. not a very good tactic i know...
acctualy that's my tactic too.
|
| |
|
|
| mrlol |
Posted on 14-03-2009 18:14
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5005
Joined: 24-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
try get bottles going downhill, or in a section where the wind comes from the front or from the back. then there's no problem.
the strong wind only causes problems if its a cross wind. |
| |
|
|
| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-03-2009 18:20
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15830
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Waghlon wrote:
Send a guy. If he fails, send another.
Keep doing that until you either get bottles or get desperate. not a very good tactic i know...
At one windy day (wind over 50 :roll ..I had nothing more to do..when atack..short atack..grab a bottle and then fall back to group. Not logical..but helped me out  |
| |
|
|
| Ste117 |
Posted on 14-03-2009 20:54
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3684
Joined: 21-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
i send my leat inportant riders to the back to get bottles because if you send your team leader an he gets dropped of the back your in big trouble. i tend to do it on flat road or if a mountain or hill stage before the foot of the mountain or hill, Conserves energy than if you go an get bottles on a hill or mountain. |
| |
|
|
| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 14-03-2009 23:59
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4790
Joined: 06-12-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
I'll generally wait until there's a split of some sort.
If the group is really strung out, I won't send anyone back. I'll take my chances and wait. |
| |
|
|
| Gentleman |
Posted on 15-03-2009 10:43
|
Free Agent
Posts: 138
Joined: 12-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Someone once told about a very interesting tactic: Send a guy to the back while protecting him with another rider. That way it increases the chance of getting him back, because the protector's energy will be used up instead of the energy of the guy carrying the water bottles (or at least the water carrier will be able to move to the front with less effort).
Also, if the pack's really strung out, send the guy with the best flat stat (if you're riding on a flat road) since it'll consume less energy to get to the front after getting the water bottles. The same goes for downhill sections, send the guy with the best DH stat - just don't send the leader himself
Although I really hate it when he has crossed half the pack and then the pack splits, so my water carrier suddenly loses all the bottles he has before he reaches the front group and has to go back to get new ones. |
| |
|
|
| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-03-2009 15:10
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 29989
Joined: 20-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
But when you ask a rider to go get water, he'll forget all about protection (settings are reset). At least that's how I remember it. |
| |
|
|
| Mithrandir |
Posted on 16-03-2009 17:09
|
Amateur
Posts: 10
Joined: 19-04-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
CrueTrue wrote:
But when you ask a rider to go get water, he'll forget all about protection (settings are reset). At least that's how I remember it.
Yeah, but if he is protected by another guy, he won't.
What annoys me is that sometimes your water boy can grab bottles, move up through the pack, if there is a wind or the pack is otherwise broken up and he is suddenly not in the same group as the others, he apparently drops the bottles, because even if the group is reassembled shortly after, he has to go all the way back to pick up bottles once more. Can be really frustrating on high-wind stages. |
| |
|
|
| kim_kirchen |
Posted on 16-03-2009 17:18
|
Amateur
Posts: 20
Joined: 14-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
I let all riders protect my captain. And he goes at the back. When he have the bottles, the other have too  |
| |
|
