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Transfer Season Rules 2024
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Please make sure you have read and understand these rules. You will not be allowed to participate in the transfers otherwise. The thread is not the same as last year, and needs to be re-read by all.

You should constantly update your team transfer sheet with all transfer dealings, to help ensure you do not go over budget.

Transfers Forums

There are three Transfers forums:

[Man-Game] Transfers: Free Agents
For free agents, stagiares and sackings.

[Man-Game] Transfers: Deals
For the deal confirmation threads for Trades and Loans

[Man-Game] Transfers: Adverts
The forum for you to advertise riders you have for sale - either by having a thread for all of your team sales, or rider specific threads. This is also the only forum that can be used to discuss Transfers.

Types of Transfer

There are 6 types of transfers that you can be involved in:
- Free Agent bidding
- Stagiare bidding
- Trades between teams
- Loans
- Sackings
- CT free riders

Free Agent bidding

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Stagiare bidding

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Trades between teams

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Loans

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Sackings

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CT free riders

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Other Important Rules

Transfers Tax

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Silent Bid

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General Rules

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Important rule for first hours of transfers
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And as usual: No transfer talk before the transfer start!
Edited by roturn on 30-08-2024 09:57
 
Fabianski
Thanks for posting this!
A couple of comments/complements:

- Stagiaire, rule 5: Maybe add something like: "In this case, a new Free Agent thread must be opened, and the link to the latter should be posted in the Stagiare thread."
- Stagiaire, rule 6: While it is stated that a stagiaire doesn't count towards the minimum rider limit for PT teams, is it correct that they don't count towards the maximum count, either? If they should count, just make it (PT, PCT) instead of just (PCT).
Deals, rule 15: First of all, thanks for including it! I'd extend it like this "[...] then the team of Rider B is not able to get out of the deal after changing plans - unless the team of Rider A decides to accept another offer for Rider A."
- Loans, lvl1->3 clause: The year should be adapted to 2003 now, as riders born in 2002 are 22y.o. and should be allowed to go 1->3.

A bit disappointed that the tax system wasn't changed, after several managers requested to tax only the net income (before training). But well, maybe that will be for next year then.
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
Fab, I feel like your third point is kinda obvious. No need to adjust that.

Tax can be discussed later but I don't personally have too much of an issue with it.

Good rule changes and additions though!
 
roturn
Will read closer into the tax suggestions the next few days and might implement it still.
 
Fabianski
Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:

Fab, I feel like your third point is kinda obvious. No need to adjust that.

Tax can be discussed later but I don't personally have too much of an issue with it.

Good rule changes and additions though!


I think it's obvious for experienced managers, indeed. I just wanted to point out that Team A is still allowed to accept other offers, it's just Team B who can't include the rider in other deals. "Getting out of a deal" isn't actually allowed by the rules anyway, but in this case Team A can "get out of it" by taking on a more favourable offer.
And yeah, as experienced managers, we know that a deal is "voided" when another thread including the same rider opens, but for newbies it might not be that clear. Hence the clarification. It might not be needed, it was just a suggestion.
 
TheUlamog
Some handy changes like the cash+rider rule. Clarifying some rules like when deals are void are still handy for non-vets. This season will involve more kinds of deals for me than last I assume and it is handy to see it written out again this year.

Thanks for the clear rules!
 
quadsas
Will there be any training changes?
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Bikex
I agree with Fabianski that the tax should definitely only be taken on the net income. That would also prevent some of the triangle deals that some of the more sneaky managers do every year to save taxes.
A rider swap should not be more rewarding than selling a rider and investing in another from another team.
I hope the change will still be implemented.
 
Bikex
Exemption: If you only use your loan cap on one rider, and this rider is a Level 1 rider, you may exceed the loan cap.


In this case, can both involved teams exceed the loan cap or only the loaning in team, like demonstrated in the example?
 
roturn
Just from the wording of the rule itself, not the example, it basically can be both teams.
e.g. rider a is 600k wage.
Both teams pay 300k wage, both teams go above loan cap and can't have any other loan cap used.
Team in never pays a fee, team out still has to pay the fee as high as the wage paid by the other team, which is 300k in this example.
IF a 1-3 clause also is added, add another 600k+100k wage to it and you have a 1 Mio fee in total while also paying 300k wage.

Great deal!
 
Fabianski
Just a reminder: Please use your full team name as stated in the continuation thread. That's what the rules say, and it facilitates semi-automatic transfers processing a lot.

If the admins were applying this rule very strictly, I believe every single bid of a certain manager so far would have been invalid (including a couple of bids causing big frustrations lately).
 
AbhishekLFC
Fabianski wrote:

Just a reminder: Please use your full team name as stated in the continuation thread. That's what the rules say, and it facilitates semi-automatic transfers processing a lot.

If the admins were applying this rule very strictly, I believe every single bid of a certain manager so far would have been invalid (including a couple of bids causing big frustrations lately).

All bids should be invalid without correct Team name. That's what has been the rule all along
 
jandal7
AbhishekLFC wrote:
Fabianski wrote:
Just a reminder: Please use your full team name as stated in the continuation thread. That's what the rules say, and it facilitates semi-automatic transfers processing a lot.

If the admins were applying this rule very strictly, I believe every single bid of a certain manager so far would have been invalid (including a couple of bids causing big frustrations lately).

All bids should be invalid without correct Team name. That's what has been the rule all along

Yeah, just my opinion but it's not applying the rule 'very strictly', just applying the rule. Especially when it's a returning manager.
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AbhishekLFC
jandal7 wrote:

AbhishekLFC wrote:
Fabianski wrote:
Just a reminder: Please use your full team name as stated in the continuation thread. That's what the rules say, and it facilitates semi-automatic transfers processing a lot.

If the admins were applying this rule very strictly, I believe every single bid of a certain manager so far would have been invalid (including a couple of bids causing big frustrations lately).

All bids should be invalid without correct Team name. That's what has been the rule all along

Yeah, just my opinion but it's not applying the rule 'very strictly', just applying the rule. Especially when it's a returning manager.

I had a FA bid invalidated for a spelling mistake after the original Deadline passed in my first season, so no excuse really.
 
cio93
I will recuse myself from this discussion.
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
Rules are there to be followed. Failure to follow should be an invalid bid.
 
Ollfardh
You either apply the rules or you don't, there is no middle way.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Fabianski
To be fair, in this one case it's not only the manager's fault. The Transfer DB doesn't have the full team name, either, so it's "just" a matter of caps/lowercase letters. Other "minor" inconsistencies include spaces, hyphens or special chars (e.g. I have no clue how to write Žalgiris without C&P ^^).
The issue is just that all the different spellings of the same team have to be consolidated in the end, which actually is work that shouldn't need to be done.
 
TheManxMissile
Fabianski wrote:

Just a reminder: Please use your full team name as stated in the continuation thread. That's what the rules say, and it facilitates semi-automatic transfers processing a lot.

If the admins were applying this rule very strictly, I believe every single bid of a certain manager so far would have been invalid (including a couple of bids causing big frustrations lately).


In said managers defence, it's the same posting style he used last year and as far as i can tell, it was never raised as a problem (or at least it did not lead to their bids becoming invalid based on a quick check of the old threads).

If I were part of the MGUCI i'd allow posted bids to stand based on that precedent, followed by making clear what constitutes "full team name" and that such definition shall be enforced going forwards.
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Fabianski
Absolutely with you. Voiding anything now would feel random. I apologize, shouldn't have mentioned that precise example anyway. Still a bit frustrated by an unnecessarily late overbid I guess ^^

My primary point was actually about the tooling, which obviously works better if there's no additional manual work needed.

Rules are rules, that's also something I agree on (and we all confirmed we read them), but I think as long as there's no obvious cheating involved, drastic measures aren't appropriate (as long as there hasn't been a warning, of course).
 
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