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| ringo182 |
Posted on 21-11-2008 15:09
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can i just ask what is taken into an account when the flat, hilly or mountain classification is added to a stage. Of the 3 stages below the first two look pretty similar but 1 is hilly and 1 is flat. On the hilly one my rider Zabel blew up on the last climb and got passed by everyone. On the flat one he outsprinted Freire, Hushovd and Boonen.
Then the third one, in my opinion, has a bigger hill, almost mountain, in it and it is flat again. Is there a certain percentage of hills that makes a course hilly. Also would a completly flat stage with a hill at the end be considered hilly while one with the hill at the start be flat.
And what is the difference between a hill and a mountain on these stages. is it a certain gradient or length or what?
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 21-11-2008 15:18
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I don't have an answer but those are some excellent questions that I have wondered about myself |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-11-2008 15:27
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Basically the difference in classification is purely based on the results of similar stages in real life. For example on a flat stage, the bunch probably finished in a sprint finish, whereas a hilly one, even when they look the same, may have seen puncheurs go for victory.
A mountain stage uses the mountain stat as the main deciding stat. Hilly a hill stat, and flat hilly as well (on the hills of course).
The last stage is flat because when the racing/pace would go up, no sprinters would be dropped. The last half of the stage is flat.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 21-11-2008 15:37
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well they both finished in sprint finishes really, just on the hilly one it was contested by hill climbers and on the flat one by sprinters.
just asking because the finish on the two first stages is almost identical yet on one Zable went backwards and on the other he outsprinted everyone and won. was that just down to the fact it was classed as hilly? |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-11-2008 15:41
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Yes.
If you go to custom tour you'll see that you can change the classification rating of each stage you set up. It's the same for a hilly or flat stage. The rating of hills on a hilly stage are more severe and will take into account the hilly stat more.
And it's not about the game rating of the stage, I was talking about real life. So taking first stage of the TDF this year, it would be rated as a hilly finish rather than flat, because the puncheurs took victory, not sprinters.
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| Halvor |
Posted on 21-11-2008 15:45
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I remember one stage in pcm07, in Giro d'Italia. It had three hard climbs, and every time I played that stage, Cunego or Di Luca won. I think Petacchi won the stage irl. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-11-2008 15:45
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Since when has Cyanide ever got anything right?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-11-2008 17:04
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Actually, I'd say that the game does allow a lot of influence on the actual result of the stage for database / stage makers. The stage might be hilly / mountain, but with the correct settings, you can pretty much get whatever result that you want. |
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