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[PT/PCT/CT] Calendar, Goals and Race Profiles 2022
ManGame-Admin
The Race Profiles forum for the 2022 season is now online. This year, it is ordered by race category. Some very few race are potentially wrongly placed due to late changes. You will always be able to find them via the search function. Right now some race clash informations might still be missing there, but you can always find any clashes in the calendar in the monthly overviews. An important thing to remember when looking at the race profiles with a time trial symbol: a white clock is an ITT, a TT symbol with a jersey in it is a TTT.

The 2022 calendar file (which also has the HC/PTHC bands listed) can be downloaded here: https://pcmdaily....endar.xlsx

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It is also now possible for you to decide on your team goals then.

Team Goals form a vital part of each team's season. In the short term, how hard goals you pick will determine your final budget - but in the longer term, how well you achieve those goals in the season will have a significant effect on your budget for the following season.

Going for harder goals could reward you greatly if you achieve them, but will punish you if you fail them. Easier goals will be less punishing if you dont achieve them, but they are in turn less rewarding aswell.

For new CT teams, it obviously isnt easy to pick goals without knowing what your team will be - so now is the time to decide which races you want to focus on, and you can then target riders in the transfers season appropriately.

Each type of goal has a cost, and every team must select 5 goals. The total goal cost must be between 14 and 23. There are also certain constraints on what type of goal you can select.

PT


WinTop 3Top 5Top 10Points/KoM JerseyStage WinOther
Team Standings6543---
Individual Standings32-1---
Tour de France654342-
Giro d'Italia54-332-
Vuelta a Espana54-332-
Monument54-3---
PT Stage Race43-221-
PT Classic43-2---
PTHC Stage Race4------
PTHC Classic3------
12 Stage Wins in a Season------4
8 Stage Wins in a Season------3
Stage win in All GTs3
Avoid Relegation1

All teams must have at least 1 Grand Tour goal
All teams must have at least 1 'Win' Goal - This means winning a classic or Stage Race outright (Including GTs and Monuments)
All teams must have a Team Standings Goal (This includes avoiding relegation)
No more than 1 PTHC goal
No more than 1 goal per race
No more than 1 Points/KoM Goal

PCT


WinTop 5Top 10Top 15Top 20Points/KoM JerseyStage Win128
PCT Team Standings65321----
PCT Individual Standings321------
PTHC Race543--32--
HC Race432--32--
C1 Race32---21--
Stage Wins in a Season-------43

All teams must have at least 1 'Win' Goal - This means winning a classic or Stage Race outright
All teams must have at least 1 PTHC Goal, and at least 1 HC Goal
All teams have a Team Standings Goal
No more than 1 goal per race
No more than 1 Points/KoM Goal

CT


WinTop 5Top 10Points/KoM JerseyStage Win85
CT Team Standings653----
CT Individual Standings321----
C1 Race65332--
C2 Race43221--
Stage Wins in a Season-----42


All teams must have at least 1 'Win' Goal - This means winning a classic or Stage Race outright
All teams must have exactly 1 C1 Goal
As C1 is not guaranteed, the OR Goal will be extended for CT teams
All teams must have a Team Standings Goal
No more than 1 goal per race
No more than 1 Points/KoM Goal


Note for all: The stage wins goals means stage wins. Overall race victories - be it a stage race or one day race - do not count. Stages wins during PT races for PCT teams do not count either.

Race Flexibility

For one of your goals, you can select 2 races (of the same goal cost) rather than 1. For example: "Top 10, Paris - Nice OR Tour of Qatar". At the end of the transfer season, you must then choose which of these two races you want to keep in your goal.

C1 Goals Flexibility for CT Teams

CT teams must have exactly 1 C1 goal, which is difficult as it`s not guaranteed for you to take part in that race. Therefore you MUST use an additional flexible OR goal on another C1 race, in which you send priority list of another 4 C1 race goals of the same goal cost where the C1 goal will move over in case you weren`t getting a spot. This doesn`t impact the one regular flexible OR goal as written above for all teams, which still can be used by CT teams.

For example:
Win C1 1 Jour de Dunkerque 6
OR Win Priority List
Berlin ProRace 6
Hong Kong Challenge 6
La Tropicale Amissa Bongo 6
Tour de Vineyards 6


Submitting your Goals

To submit your goals, please use the table format as seen in the spoiler and send it via PM s as seen further below.
Spoiler
Race AWin/Top X etc.Cost
Race BWin/Top X etc.Cost
Race CWin/Top X etc.Cost
Race DWin/Top X etc.Cost
Team StandingsOptionCost


PT teams: Fabianski https://pcmdaily....kup=137222
PCT teams: IvanEurope https://pcmdaily....okup=50467
CT teams: jandal7 https://pcmdaily....kup=105984

If you were waiting for your budget before renewals, please decide on your goals quickly.
 
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ManGame-Admin
Made some small changes. CT Team standings top-10 is now worth 3 points again, whereas the '15 and 10 stage wins in a season' have been changed to 12 and 8 stage wins because of the calendar reducing a bit.

Also, I think a shout-out to the calendar team is definitely in its place here as well. Ulrich, redordead and Abhishek have been working incredibly hard the last couple of months, making sure the calendar, races and race profiles are all what they are today, so thank you very much for that. Also a big thanks to everyone else helping with the off-season tasks at the moment.
 
Fabianski
ManGame-Admin wrote:
The Race Profiles forum for the 2022 season is now online. This year, it is ordered by race category.

Just some additional information, as I didn't realize this in the past:
Races in the profile thread are ordered exactly as you find them on the first tab of the calendar file, i.e. PTM, PT, C1 and C2 are sorted alphabetically, and PTHC/HC according to the order in the calendar file.

The only exception I'm aware of is Berlin ProRace, which is the very last of the C1 races, as it was decided only once the posts were done which sprint classic it would finally be.

And please PM me or someone of the calendar team if any of the clashes listed isn't correct.
 
roturn
Just like all other divisions, the number of stage wins needed in PT to acchieve the goal is reduced.

12/8 in PT/PCT and 8/5 in CT.

And as usual, only stage wins count, no stage race GCs or classic wins!
 
GregPeck
I am not sure I understand the "OR goals" thing, but I will try
 
Fabianski
GregPeck wrote:
I am not sure I understand the "OR goals" thing, but I will try

Just ask if you're not sure.
You have to select an OR goal for the C1 race category, listing 5 (prioritized) options, all having the same goal cost. Usually it will be Win Race A OR Win Race B OR ...
But it would also be allowed to have Top 10 Race A OR Points Jersey Race B OR KoM Jersey Race C as they all have the same goal cost (3 in this case).

Additionally, you CAN select another OR goal, with just 2 options however. E.g. Win 5 Stages OR Top 10 in C2 race (both have goal cost 2).

If anything is unclear, just hit up a fellow manager - for goals selection maybe those of your division aren't the best suited ones as long as they haven't submitted their own goals, though Wink
 
TheManxMissile
Fabianski wrote:
GregPeck wrote:
I am not sure I understand the "OR goals" thing, but I will try


You have to select an OR goal for the C1 race category, listing 5 (prioritized) options, all having the same goal cost. Usually it will be Win Race A OR Win Race B OR ...
But it would also be allowed to have Top 10 Race A OR Points Jersey Race B OR KoM Jersey Race C as they all have the same goal cost (3 in this case).

Additionally, you CAN select another OR goal, with just 2 options however. E.g. Win 5 Stages OR Top 10 in C2 race (both have goal cost 2).


Tbf for the "C1 Or Flexiility" you don't have to worry about cost as it's only race options, which will always give the same cost because they all have to be C1, you can't swap different options for the same C1 race (that's how i read the new idea).

For a CT Team the "normal" OR isn't hugely important, as you are basically guaranteed entry to every C2 race you want.
Just as a tip, as a new CT team i'd maybe use the OR to split across two different types of race (i.e Race A is flat, Race B is hilly) as you never quite know how transfers will turn out, then you can pick to best fit the riders you sign.
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GregPeck
Fabianski wrote:
GregPeck wrote:
I am not sure I understand the "OR goals" thing, but I will try

Just ask if you're not sure.
You have to select an OR goal for the C1 race category, listing 5 (prioritized) options, all having the same goal cost. Usually it will be Win Race A OR Win Race B OR ...
But it would also be allowed to have Top 10 Race A OR Points Jersey Race B OR KoM Jersey Race C as they all have the same goal cost (3 in this case).

Additionally, you CAN select another OR goal, with just 2 options however. E.g. Win 5 Stages OR Top 10 in C2 race (both have goal cost 2).

If anything is unclear, just hit up a fellow manager - for goals selection maybe those of your division aren't the best suited ones as long as they haven't submitted their own goals, though Wink


I think I understood, thanks
 
Fabianski
TheManxMissile wrote:
Tbf for the "C1 Or Flexiility" you don't have to worry about cost as it's only race options, which will always give the same cost because they all have to be C1, you can't swap different options for the same C1 race (that's how i read the new idea).

No, you can't use different options for the same race, but you could - in my understanding - use different options for different races. Like get a Top 10 in Berlin OR take the KoM jersey in Tour of America - both C1 races, both with goal cost 3. At least that's how I interpret the following:

ManGame-Admin wrote:
C1 Goals Flexibility for CT Teams

[...] send priority list of another 4 C1 race goals of the same goal cost where the C1 goal will move over in case you weren`t getting a spot. [...]

But I agree it's not completely clear, as the example only has Win goals listed - and the Top10 vs. Points/KoM jersey actually are the only "same-value-options".
 
TheManxMissile
Fabianski wrote:
ManGame-Admin wrote:
C1 Goals Flexibility for CT Teams

[...] send priority list of another 4 C1 race goals of the same goal cost where the C1 goal will move over in case you weren`t getting a spot. [...]

But I agree it's not completely clear, as the example only has Win goals listed - and the Top10 vs. Points/KoM jersey actually are the only "same-value-options".


That's a fair point, i just blackout the Points/KoM option from my mind given PCM's randomness in those competitions.
Although that could then get messy if you have a Points/KoM Goal for a C2 race, as you'd need to swap that as well (being only allowed one Points/Kom Goal in total).
Maybe the Flexibility wording needs tidying up/tightening (Or we could see an Or overriding an Or needing an Or to correct the Or Or it will all go horribly wrong)
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ember
I see Chrono d'Arenberg now officially has two stages put in the profiles thread. Does that mean the race is counted as a PTHC stage race and 4 points, or a PTHC classic and 3 points for a PT team?
 
AbhishekLFC
ember wrote:
I see Chrono d'Arenberg now officially has two stages put in the profiles thread. Does that mean the race is counted as a PTHC stage race and 4 points, or a PTHC classic and 3 points for a PT team?

It is still a classic. Same with Herbiers and Isle of Man. It will just be run twice as we have been doing for the past couple of seasons.
 
Fabianski
To be honest, I've never paid a lot of attention to the Points/KoM Jersey goals. Now I'm thinking a bit more in-depth about those goals, and I've got a question (yeah, me again, of course ^^):

Do I have to select whether I target the KoM jersey or the points jersey, or is the goal fulfilled if I get any of those two?
 
ManGame-Admin
You indeed have to select what jersey you are targeting.
 
ManGame-Admin
I would also like to add, that if anyone is waiting on their budget to do their renewals, please send me a message with your goals as well.
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
One note on the pure flat races. We have added a mountain stage to the parcour for each of the races listed below. It will not be run or reported but is intended to change AI behavior. Testing has shown this resolves the GC bug where riders in the top 5ish in GC don't sprint. The mountain stage takes them all out of GC consideration.

This should make top sprinters a little more confident about achieving results in these races and likely makes the best sprinters a little better and the weaker ones a little worse. Testing didn't show any major negative impacts, but there is only so much time for testing so we will view this as an experiment this year.

Impacted races are:
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Juarez
Baltic Chain
Tour of Guadeloupe
USA Pro Cycling Challenge
Ras Tailteann
Man Game: McCormick Pro Cycling
 
Fabianski
Hey,
I created a forum-compatible 2022 calendar, in the format I always use in my HQ. As the race selection obviously isn't done yet, this time I made one with all races contained.
So whoever wants to use it in some way, feel free to do so - be it in your HQ, season previews, or whatever...

Just some notes/hints:
- The color codes are roughly the same as in the calendar excel file. However, I had to adapt them for better readability; while they are good as background colors, they're mostly too bright as font colors (and background colors don't work in this forum afaik). Especially the C2 yellow had to be changed - but as there's no C2HC this year, this shouldn't lead to any confusion.
- I used the regional flags for Catalunya and Pais Vasco (3 races in total); feel free to replace them by the Spanish flag if you wish.
- For races across multiple countries, I just took start and finish locations of the profiles, so the flags may not be complete. Especially for ToNE, there are just a couple of stages in Belgium; the rest are "anonymous" stages.

Hit me up in case of questions or if you've got some ideas to make this calendar better/more readable. If you want to use it, best is to quote this post and use the part of it that you need Smile

2022 Calendar

StartEndRaceCategory
09-Jan11-Jan Tour of TasmaniaPT
09-Jan Down Under ClassicHC
09-Jan Gisborne GPC2
13-Jan18-Jan Tour Down UnderHC
17-Jan22-Jan Tour of QatarPT
21-Jan30-Jan Vuelta al TachiraC2
25-Jan27-Jan Hong Kong ChallengeC1
30-Jan Franceville ClassiquePTHC
30-Jan Clasico San JoseC2
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01-Feb08-Feb Volta a PortugalPTHC
02-Feb Copenhagen - Malmo TTTPT
04-Feb Omloop Het NieuwsbladHC
04-Feb Viana do CasteloC1
06-Feb Gent - WevelgemC2
10-Feb GP HerningC2
10-Feb Le SamynHC
12-Feb18-Feb Tirreno - AdriaticoPT
13-Feb20-Feb Paris - NicePT
13-Feb Classique du Grand-DuchéPT
15-Feb20-Feb Volta a CatalunyaC2
22-Feb24-Feb Tour of UkrainePTHC
22-Feb26-Feb Circulo de JuarezHC
26-Feb Kuurne - Bruxelles - KuurneC1
28-Feb Milano - San RemoPTM
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01-Mar Geraardsbergen - BosbergC2
01-Mar04-Mar Tour of GuadeloupeC1
02-Mar05-Mar Jelajah SKLC2
04-Mar Strada Appia AnticaPT
06-Mar11-Mar Vuelta al Pais VascoC1
08-Mar Great Ocean Road ClassicPTHC
13-Mar16-Mar Praha - Karlovy Vary - PrahaPT
13-Mar18-Mar Vuelta a ColombiaPTHC
20-Mar22-Mar Ronde van NederlandPT
21-Mar Coppa PlacciC2
24-Mar Macskako KerekparversenyPT
24-Mar Strade BiancheHC
26-Mar Ronde van VlaanderenPTM
28-Mar E3 PrijsPT
30-Mar GP IzolaC2
30-Mar Lillestrom GPC1
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01-Apr Paris - RoubaixPTM
01-Apr07-Apr Tour of CaliforniaC2
03-Apr23-Apr Giro d'ItaliaPTM
06-Apr10-Apr Baltic Chain TourC1
12-Apr18-Apr Tour de PologneHC
15-Apr Berlin ProRaceC1
20-Apr GP LiechtensteinPT
20-Apr Badaling InternationalC1
23-Apr Roma MaximaPTHC
25-Apr GP WallonieHC
25-Apr Lincoln GPC2
27-Apr30-Apr USA Pro Cycling ChallengeC2
28-Apr Veenendaal - VeenendaalPTHC
28-Apr Lisbon ClassicHC
30-Apr Amstel Gold RacePT
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01-May Cheshire Cycling TourPTHC
01-May Nakhon Ratchasima TrophyC2
03-May Fleche WallonnePT
03-May08-May Tour de RomandieC1
07-May Liege - Bastogne - LiegePTM
09-May10-May Chrono d'ArenbergPTHC
10-May Rund um KolnPT
11-May31-May Vuelta a EspanaPTM
12-May14-May Tour of ChileC1
13-May15-May Tour du FasoC2
17-May23-May Int. Osterreich RundfahrtHC
18-May 1 Jour de DunkerqueC1
23-May28-May Olympia's TourC2
27-May31-May Tour of NorwayHC
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01-Jun Hanko ClassicC1
01-Jun03-Jun Ras TailteannC2
03-Jun Pro Hallstatt ClassicHC
05-Jun08-Jun Tour of East JavaPTHC
08-Jun14-Jun Tour de SuissePTHC
09-Jun13-Jun La Tropicale Amissa BongoC1
14-Jun21-Jun Criterium du Dauphine LiberePTHC
16-Jun22-Jun Tour of VancouverC2
17-Jun22-Jun Tour of South AfricaC1
25-Jun Monterrey TTTC2
27-Jun29-Jun Scandinavia Open Road RacePT
27-Jun Apex Mountain ClassicC1
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01-Jul Torshavn GPC1
01-Jul Uppsala ClassicC2
03-Jul23-Jul Tour de FrancePTM
03-Jul06-Jul Arab TourC1
08-Jul09-Jul Isle of Man ITTC2
10-Jul14-Jul Tour de VineyardsC1
13-Jul Philadelphia International ChampionshipPTHC
16-Jul19-Jul Tour of LithuaniaPTHC
21-Jul Windhoek TTTC1
23-Jul Betonexpressz GPC2
25-Jul29-Jul Tour of SloveniaPTHC
25-Jul29-Jul Tour d'AndorraC1
---
01-Aug05-Aug Deutschland TourPTHC
01-Aug06-Aug Benelux ChallengeHC
06-Aug Clasica San SebastianPTHC
08-Aug09-Aug Chrono des HerbiersPT
09-Aug13-Aug Post Danmark RundtHC
11-Aug13-Aug Giro del TrentinoC2
15-Aug Frankfurt EschbornC1
17-Aug21-Aug Tour of BritainC1
18-Aug Riga - Jurmala GPPTHC
21-Aug East Midlands Cicle ClassicPT
23-Aug31-Aug Tour de l'AvenirU23
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01-Sep Paris ToursPTHC
01-Sep GP KigaliC1
03-Sep23-Sep Tour of AmericaC1
04-Sep09-Sep Balkans InternationalPTHC
11-Sep14-Sep Tour of the Middle EastC2
12-Sep GP MoscowPT
16-Sep22-Sep Tour of Northern EuropePT
17-Sep20-Sep Bayern RundfahrtHC
26-Sep Tour of the BattenkillPTHC
26-Sep Rheden GPPTHC
28-Sep Milano - TorinoC1
28-Sep GP LuganoC1
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01-Oct06-Oct Tour du MarocHC
03-Oct Japan CupPTHC
06-Oct10-Oct Herald Sun TourC2
12-Oct15-Oct Euskal BizikletaC1
14-Oct Grand Prix Cycliste de MontrealPTHC
18-Oct Giro di LombardiaPTM
18-Oct Giro dell'EmiliaHC
18-Oct Zuri MetzgeteC2

 
Eden95
Hey that’s awesome, nice work Smile
Indosat - ANZ HQ

"This Schleck sandwich is going to cause serious indigestion for Evans" - Phil Liggett
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
Due to concerns about it having an oversize influence on the race outcome the organizers have reduced the opening TTT in Tirreno Adriatico to 9.2k.

Profile is updated.
Man Game: McCormick Pro Cycling
 
jaxika
If for example I have a win goal, but we finish only 2 nd, thats worth something buget wise or equal as like a 50+ ish result?
 
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