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Posted on 24-09-2008 22:46
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so apparently cadel evans with 84 MO gets beaten by davide rebellin 71 MO up Mont Serein in Paris-Nice. How??!!
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Ok the climb started with Team Columbia pushing a monster pace up the mountain for Kirchen. (I'm using PepsiLight (good stuff!) so he could easily take this climb). Cadel is at 84 MO from a training camp but so far he hasnt impressed with his results or form, only coming in 2nd in the prologue of Paris-Nice behind Dekker. Stage 3 Davide Rebellin attacks and gains enough time to best Dekker by about 30 seconds and takes the stage. Going into stage 6 Cadel was sitting comfortably in the pack but only with a form of 0 near the end of the day. The climb starts and Dekker gets hot feet and jumps off the peleton. Remaining calm i kept Cadel were he was knowing that i had to watch the other favorites (Kirchen and Piepoli). About 6km from the summit Gerdemann was pounding on the pressure but Piepoli decides to jump so i send cadel... bad move. I realize hes getting no where fast and sit cadel down. Meanwhile losing 3/4 of my yellow. Then Kirchen jumps. Behind him comes Rebellin in yellow. That was the first WTF moment. I tried to go to but he cracked in front of the peleton (cadel) and in total lost about a minute. To who?? DAVIDE REBELLIN! is it his form?? Whatever it is it angered me. How the hell did he make it up Mont Serein and still have enough left in his tank to follow Kim Kirchen, pass him, and win a 3 man sprint? Please enlighten me. |
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Posted on 24-09-2008 22:48
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Form matters a hell of a lot 
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Posted on 24-09-2008 22:49
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Seriously?? Rebellin can have the material to win while Cadel suffers? Does form really matter that much? |
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Posted on 24-09-2008 22:53
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1. Form is crucial. Don't you watch cycling?
2. That stage is marked on the DB as 0.5, meaning it's 50% the hill stat and 50% the mountain stat, just like Flèche, LBL and Lombardia
3. Real life results from that stage:
4 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner
5 Fränk Schleck (Lux) Team CSC +0.34
6 Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) Silence-Lotto +0.38
7 Juan Manuel Gárate (Spa) Quick Step +1.03
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Posted on 25-09-2008 00:45
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1. I do, sir!
2. Oh ok i had no idea that the stages were marked in the DB (i should look into that B) )
3. Hmm its just odd to me |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 02:06
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And what about fitness? Matters a lot more than form.
Rebellin would usually be pretty fit P-N time, whereas Evans would usually be just starting his season..... |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 07:20
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fenian_1234 wrote:
And what about fitness? Matters a lot more than form.
Rebellin would usually be pretty fit P-N time, whereas Evans would usually be just starting his season.....
That's what we're talking about
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Posted on 25-09-2008 08:20
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issoisso wrote:
fenian_1234 wrote:
And what about fitness? Matters a lot more than form.
Rebellin would usually be pretty fit P-N time, whereas Evans would usually be just starting his season.....
That's what we're talking about
Yes, but it seems like that the original poster considers 'form' as 'daily form'. |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 13:32
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That's what I thought too, Crue, as trops was talking about a form of '0'.
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Posted on 25-09-2008 21:18
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CrueTrue wrote:
issoisso wrote:
fenian_1234 wrote:
And what about fitness? Matters a lot more than form.
Rebellin would usually be pretty fit P-N time, whereas Evans would usually be just starting his season.....
That's what we're talking about
Yes, but it seems like that the original poster considers 'form' as 'daily form'.
what form did you mean? |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 21:22
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I personally meant form, the one from 0 to 100.
The other one (from -5 to +5) is usually referred to as "form of the day" or such.
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Posted on 25-09-2008 21:48
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So does daily form or fitness matter more? |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 22:07
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Fitness matters alot more, you should try to peak evans (100 fitness) for your important races. Daily form just gives you an edge
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Posted on 26-09-2008 01:01
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What about if his fatigue level maxes out? |
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Posted on 26-09-2008 01:57
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When a rider is totally tired he cannot reach the the maximum fitness.
If the fatigue bar is about half full you will see that the max. training fitness level will start to drop (the second number, e.g. 70/78 instead of 70/80) .
The higher the fatigue, the less fitness your rider can reach. This is irreversible until the end of the season.
If you build your own fitness schedules make sure that your riders have enough time to recover in between 2 peaks. You should not switch training schedules during the season, if you have no clue what you are doing. |
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