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Leading the Peleton
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 06-09-2008 17:29
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When your rider is leading the GC and you put your train at the front of the peleton what effort do you use them on relay. I am not talking about bringing back the breakaway completely. Just keep the breakaway close until the sprinter teams take over with about 50K to go.
I usually put them on 40 or 45 short relay. It seems when I put them on 50 they lose their yellow bar very quickly.
It is taking me some time getting used to the yellow bar and how it works. |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 06-09-2008 17:33
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Like riding tempo? yea i never really figured that out so i just send one guy up going short relay at 99 % killing themselves 
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 06-09-2008 17:37
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Yes, riding tempo. I'll give that technique a try, t-baum (insert sarcasm smiley here). My teams always have difficulty riding tempo in the mountains. They never seem to manage pass the first mountain pass. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 06-09-2008 18:15
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Tried just letting other teams do it for you?
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| Lachi |
Posted on 06-09-2008 18:28
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Normally other teams are doing a great job in catching the escapees but on some stages you can loose up to 10 minutes of you do not pay attention. So it is good to know how to ride to prevent big gaps.
Basically it is pure logic you use as much riders as you can afford and set the pace as high as you can afford. If it is a grand tour, don't waste your mountain helpers but in a weekly tour you can use all your helpers. Set the % so that they loose some yellow but very slowly. You might set the % differently for different kind of riders. riders with high flat stats can ride more % before loosing yellow. |
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 06-09-2008 20:33
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Tried just letting other teams do it for you?
I can't do that. I want to "honor the jersey" and have my team do the work. Plus it is boring if my team stays in the pack day after day. |
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| King Lolzy |
Posted on 06-09-2008 20:41
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i found that if you set the % to a level where the heartbeat is only 166 the riders can ride without losing much yellow!!
cause at 167 the heart starts to flash |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 08-09-2008 13:27
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I'd say the key thing is a combination of heart-rate and watching the time gaps.
The escapees never ride too fast early in the stage, so you can keep 'em close pretty easily riding between 45-50. Tweak it for individual riders too - eg set your weakest guy at 50 and your strongest guy at 45. If the gap starts coming down your obviously riding too fast - same goes for heart rates over 165.
Key thing to remember is you can let the escapees have a bit of time as they slow dramatically in the last 20k and as you say you'll get help from the 50k or so mark.
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