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| teamobile |
Posted on 02-09-2008 13:07
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Does anyone know if V3 has been released yet as I have heard it is no longer accurate since the latest patch. Also, does anyone know the password that is protecting the sheets as I would like to have a look at the raw numbers rather than the graphs. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 02-09-2008 17:24
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I haven't seen any new version, so I guess not. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 02-09-2008 20:45
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why shouldn't it be accurate. as far as I know V2 was released at the same time as the patch. I has some mail contact with eyolfur (creator of this thing) and he never mentioned that it shouldn't be used any longer.
If you need the passwort you should either ask him or use google, because there is surely a way to crack this, if even games will be cracked.
But I think you couldn't use it anyway because if you would have a minor knowledge of excel you would have found the raw numbers long ago. (They are accessible without password) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-09-2008 20:48
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I'm curious: what is that thing?
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| Lachi |
Posted on 02-09-2008 21:26
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https://www.cyanid...ss+planing
It is a tool to calculate the fitness and fatigue in regard of different training plans. You can also build and save training plans which are loadable in the game.
btw: why retired and not sour?
Edited by Lachi on 02-09-2008 21:28
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| teamobile |
Posted on 03-09-2008 00:49
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Lachi
Does the term go &*%$ yourself mean anything to you. For your information I have a very good knowledge of excel and the raw data is still not accessible to me or anyone else who doesn't have the password. Maybe have a look at the thing properly before shooting your mouth off.
If anyone does have the password, or the information about how much fatigue and fitness you acquire at each training level I would be very greatful. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 03-09-2008 16:00
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With that kind of response, do you think that people are willing to help? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-09-2008 16:02
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Lachi wrote:
https://www.cyanid...ss+planing
It is a tool to calculate the fitness and fatigue in regard of different training plans. You can also build and save training plans which are loadable in the game.
so, exactly the same thing that's available in-game since the patch?
okay....
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| teamobile |
Posted on 04-09-2008 02:56
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The difference is that the spreadsheet version will tell you what fitness level your rider will be at a point in time which is handy to know if you want a rider in peak condition for a certain race.
In regard to my response above, I don't appreciate people who talk down to others and felt that was what Lachi had done to me so I felt obliged to respond. I would do it again! |
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| ruben |
Posted on 04-09-2008 09:45
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issoisso wrote:
Uhm....I still don't see how that's any better than what's in the game, but nevermind. Your not showing any smart things then
The excel sheet shows much better when and where and how your fatigue and fitness levels will be, then the ingame planner  |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 04-09-2008 23:41
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teamobile wrote:
For your information I have a very good knowledge of excel ... I give a *$# about your knowlegde.
teamobile wrote:
... I would like to have a look at the raw numbers rather than the graphs. In the columns A, B, P and Q is the data which is used to create the charts. To me this is the raw data and it is accessible without a password. Just copy + paste, no knowlegde needed.
teamobile wrote:
... or the information about how much fatigue and fitness you acquire at each training level ... If you are looking for this information, why are you asking for raw data? And if you have some math knowlegde you could figure out the factors by yourself using the columns P or Q. (And don't tell me how good you are in maths, because I don't give a *$# about that either)
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Posted on 05-09-2008 13:04
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Ruben wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Uhm....I still don't see how that's any better than what's in the game, but nevermind. Your not showing any smart things then
The excel sheet shows much better when and where and how your fatigue and fitness levels will be, then the ingame planner
Does the excelsheet take fitness at day1 into account. From my experinece the in-game feature doesn't and assumes som standard value (perhaps 0). |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 05-09-2008 14:15
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Neither the game nor this sheet take fitness at day 1 into account but it really does not matter because the fitness will just level up (or down) after the first few weeks. And the fatigue will be added anyway, no matter if the rider is fitter then the level he is training or not (at least I think it is like that) and if not, it wouldn't matter that much because in the first few weeks you can only train level 1 or 2 after all (and they don't give you fatigue, or only a tiny little bit). |
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| rontgen |
Posted on 08-09-2008 10:15
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Lachi wrote:
Neither the game nor this sheet take fitness at day 1 into account but it really does not matter because the fitness will just level up (or down) after the first few weeks. And the fatigue will be added anyway, no matter if the rider is fitter then the level he is training or not (at least I think it is like that) and if not, it wouldn't matter that much because in the first few weeks you can only train level 1 or 2 after all (and they don't give you fatigue, or only a tiny little bit).
My experience is that it matters quite a bit. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 09-09-2008 12:14
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It matter how? Please clarify. |
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| rontgen |
Posted on 09-09-2008 16:52
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Fatigue is not linear to fitness, so if fitness is x higher for a rider, you can't just add y=c*x ammount to his fatigue.
I've had riders be at 100%+ fatigue, and have their max fitness reduced, even though the planner says they are somewhere around 70% |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 10-09-2008 00:29
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I still don't understand. I look at the beginning of the year and at this moment all the riders have 0 fatigue. Their fitness might be as high as 60 or as low as 30 but on the first few weeks you can only train level 1 or 2. These levels would result in a training fitness of max. 60 but a training fitness of 60 won't give them fatigue.
Are we talking about the same thing? |
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| King Lolzy |
Posted on 10-09-2008 02:53
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fitness is not max. 60 in the first few weeks, i've had a few riders with fitness 75 during the down under tour |
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