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Staying in the front of the peloton
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| Wafu Pesa |
Posted on 18-10-2018 15:56
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Hi guys
Long time reader and downloader from this great site. Think this is my first post ( at least for ages )
Played around 5 seasons with a custom team. Enjoying it very much, after I haven't played since the 2012 edition ( shitty computer ) . However I seem to have a little problem with my riders keeping up the pace with the best riders on mountain stages. They don't seem to be aware themselves if the pace goes up, and that means that sometimes when I am "nursing" a rider in a breakaway, then suddenly my riders in the peloton are left behind. This happens when my effort is at 70, but I don't want to spend more energy than I have to, if there is more than one mountain left. I know I can just pay better attention, but is there really no way I can make my rider follow the leader of the race for instance, and then be sure he will stay at he's wheel, like when I'm following a team mate?
It is by no means ruining the game for me, just a minor frustration ( a large one when your 83 mountain guy is suddenly 3 minutes behind the 40 man peloton, and you start kissing that dream of the leaders jersey goodbye )
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| Champ_Armstrong |
Posted on 19-10-2018 07:27
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From my experience you need to raise the effort to at least 80.
One thing for certain do not let the "computer" control your rider and keep position in front without using the dot. When the race begins I always take my star man and "dotting" him to the very front. When he is in right position i set him to "keep position". The rider will stay in front of the peloton the whole race but in the final you need to "nurse" him aswell. So if you both have one in breakaway and a leader back in the peloton, you have to switch between them.
In mountain stages you can clearly tell when the final starts depending on if its ending uphill or downhill. When favorites attacking I set the dot to 85/90. If you rider is really good, you can also follow the attacks but that is a manuel job.
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever.
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| Wafu Pesa |
Posted on 19-10-2018 07:42
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Thanks. That is good advice
I will for sure become better at using the "dot". But my main problem is probably paying attention. And in some way it is fair to get punished for not doing that. However the switching between a breakaway and the peloton can get tricky at times I think. Especially on a mountain stage, where you have a rider in the breakaway, and one or more riding the generel classification in the peloton. That allways ends up being a lot of pausing from my side, going back and forward between the peloton and the breakaway. That has been my method for all the PCMs I've been playing, throughout the years. I don't know if there is any better way though. I think my method is okay in single player, but I highly doubt I will be able to succesfully compete online, not being able to pause  |
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| Champ_Armstrong |
Posted on 19-10-2018 08:01
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If I have a 83 mo rider in the top GC I do not focus on breakaways, honestly.
My focus is to protect the leader with the second best climber and use the rest of the team pacing and getting bottles. Proper US Postal strategy
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| Wafu Pesa |
Posted on 19-10-2018 08:47
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I often do that aswell, but sometimes I remember how often I cursed the US Postal for "killing the race", and how i love the beauty of winning a stage after a long day out front. But I got to admit that I use the US Postal-method like 8 out of 10 times. It seems safer and also a lot easier to handle
You use your second best climber as a protecter. That is interesting. If I have for instance 4 riders who can climb better than 78, I will often use the weakest as protecter to have my 2nd and 3rd best climber with my leader as long as possible, and then I "use them up" to catch a breakaway from a favorite or to put on maximum pressure in the final of the race |
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| Champ_Armstrong |
Posted on 19-10-2018 08:57
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The Virenque method is surely more beautiful but that i'll only do if I had underdogs like Pinot or Latour or if I was going for polka dots.
The thing is I never have 4 riders who can climb better than 78. Normally I have one good climber and one decent climber. Of course it also depends on which team i'm playing with. Huge difference if i'm riding a mountain stage with Quick-Step or SKY. If SKY I protect both Froome and Thomas. If Quick-Step I might go in breakaways or protect Jungels with Mas or reverse.
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| Wafu Pesa |
Posted on 19-10-2018 09:02
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Different styles I guess. I always try to have at least 3 good climbers in at GT. However, as I haven't played since 2012, I really miss having 9 riders on my team. I wish that rule of maximum 7/8 riders only applied in real life  |
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| Champ_Armstrong |
Posted on 19-10-2018 09:53
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True that! Sounds like you're playing with Movistar xD
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| Wafu Pesa |
Posted on 19-10-2018 10:04
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Actually I created my own team ( After signing a new sponsor by the end of year 1, I am now the "Team CSC", which is great for a dane like me
) . I often do that. And after a few seasons I have some youngsters who have become great climbers at a low salary. Podgacar, Sosa and so on. Off course they tend to wan't a higher salary when they get good ( seems fair ), but then often I manage to find new young riders with great potential, so that they can take over when my former youngsters get to expensive. But my focus is also often on climbers, which is also why I rarely have more than one or two sprinters and even less time trial experts. I think ( for me ) climbers often offers good value, as they can compete in GT's and also often in races like LBL, Amstel etc . |
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| Champ_Armstrong |
Posted on 19-10-2018 11:36
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Sounds interesting!
CSC was also one of the elite in the 00's
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