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Career - Putting no objectives to cyclists...
mauroborioni
Hello, at the planning phase beginning the season, it would be good to keep in mind the objectives given by the sponsor and the races preferred by the individual cyclists, and then set the cyclists' objectives accordingly. But it's really a mess, because setting goals to cyclists changes the training, fitness and fatigue. Values ​​that I can manually change in the training graphs, ok, but with much time loss.
And. If I understood well, putting an objective to a cyclist would compromise his performance in the previous weeks. At least so I read somewhere: this is a sort of simulation of the strong workout that the rider makes to be at the top in the target race. And then the races before, the cyclist is bad.
So now I'm tempted to put no objectives at all for cyclists in the next season. This would allow to set up workouts by myself immediately, putting the peaks in the races I want. And above all without having the performance drops behind the goal races. However, I wonder if not putting objectives to a runner has negative consequences. Okay, the runner gets angry, but what does that mean in concrete? Somewhere I read that it should have no consequences in real terms. Does anyone have any experience on that?
Thank you!
 
Supernutz
Can you actually edit fitness training levels throughout the season?

I haven't tried it.

I would assume that unhappy riders are less likely to sign for you...but I don't know that either.
 
Blueprint
This works perfectly fine, I'm doing it all the time. Just make sure to set a nice race program (through schedule) and your riders should be happy enough, even without objectives.
 
Ripley
Definitely works in PCM 14. If you do want objectives, select the very earliest all together (but still edit the training levels afterwards). Otherwise, just delete all objectives and build a training schedule from scratch (oh, those were the days when you could load and save training schedules. *sigh*). I have seen no downsides, the happiness is high as long as they race - and even when it is low resigning isn't a problem. I let some riders ride only one preperation stage race, TdS, TdF and Vuelta, they are always unhappy in June, whether they have the objectives or not.
 
Patb095
So, if I get it good. The green bar under the objective is only some kind of a guide about what would get the rider happy and this not the real mood of the rider but just an indication about what “will” make it happy later on the season?

So that mean that you can use this objective “ tool” or get to the same results “manually “ in the planning?
Pat B
 
Ripley
That sounds about right. Here's Pomoshnikov at the end of a season, very satisfied despite no objectives and his (initial) evaluation on the objectives screen (in the background):

i.imgur.com/wvYAqxx.png

Would need a counter example of giving him objectives and then not letting him race them. Not all my riders are satisfied, though, some are annoyed, I don't know why that is. For example, Lammertink (a puncheur) is annoyed despite 60 race days, including all the important hilly classics, he ended 46th in the WT rankings, he should be satisfied, right?
 
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