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Posted on 24-11-2024 02:59
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| t-baum |
Posted on 03-05-2008 16:19
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What is the premium cycling.tv link again? I lost it ops:
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 03-05-2008 16:34
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If you keep reading all the threads about the big races, you'll eventually find it...
idiot *snicker*
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| t-baum |
Posted on 03-05-2008 16:40
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I found it, no help to you!
But it's messed up:cry:
https://player.nar...r=premiumx
redirects me to the narrowstep.com or whatever page
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 03-05-2008 16:46
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add old
https://player.nar...remiumxold
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| t-baum |
Posted on 03-05-2008 16:47
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yayyyyyyyyyyyyy
thanks
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 04-05-2008 04:48
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lol is there a category below "how do you work a computer" cause I belong there
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Posted on 04-05-2008 10:07
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It's crazy that can't protect their premium sites better than that |
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Posted on 06-05-2008 12:16
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It's crazy that anybody would want to rip off a small company that provides a unique service to cycling fans. And not only that, by watching pirate streams you're devaluing the worth of internet broadcast rights -- when there's no cycling coverage for you to watch beyond final kilometer highlights, give yourselves a big pat on the back. |
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Posted on 06-05-2008 12:28
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turismo wrote:
It's crazy that anybody would want to rip off a small company that provides a unique service to cycling fans. And not only that, by watching pirate streams you're devaluing the worth of internet broadcast rights -- when there's no cycling coverage for you to watch beyond final kilometer highlights, give yourselves a big pat on the back.
It's crazy that they actually expect people to pay to watch something that quite probably is on TV for free... What they expect you to pay doesn't represent the costs they have with the broadcast... It's much much higher... But in a perfect market (economical theory), there are no profits... You get as much as you spend... So who's really ripping off who here?
The TV's actually broadcast it free of charge to the viewers so why don't they do it too? The only difference is that TV networks get their revenue from adds and not viewers... So why don't they do the same?
So, when the assimetries between the world population start to grow even higher, give yourself a big pat on the back...
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Posted on 06-05-2008 12:31
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Maybe if cycling.tv actually tested for bugs and loopholes like this then they wouldn't have to worry so muc about getting ripped off. And maybe if you've shelled out £30 or whatever, they could guarantee the quality of their stream - that would be good too. My friend paid the money for the premium package and gets to watch the finale of live racing in 400 mbs usually, because the other higher quality streams aren't reliable.  |
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| turismo |
Posted on 06-05-2008 13:12
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
Maybe if cycling.tv actually tested for bugs and loopholes like this then they wouldn't have to worry so muc about getting ripped off. And maybe if you've shelled out £30 or whatever, they could guarantee the quality of their stream - that would be good too. My friend paid the money for the premium package and gets to watch the finale of live racing in 400 mbs usually, because the other higher quality streams aren't reliable.
Oh please tell me your theory as to why the higher quality streams are under stress at the end of a race. Could it be because people who haven't paid are stealing access to the streams, when the servers are only set up to handle the amount of paying customers?
Are you ripping off Cycling.tv AND their paying customers?
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Posted on 06-05-2008 13:20
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p3druh wrote:
turismo wrote:
It's crazy that anybody would want to rip off a small company that provides a unique service to cycling fans. And not only that, by watching pirate streams you're devaluing the worth of internet broadcast rights -- when there's no cycling coverage for you to watch beyond final kilometer highlights, give yourselves a big pat on the back.
It's crazy that they actually expect people to pay to watch something that quite probably is on TV for free... What they expect you to pay doesn't represent the costs they have with the broadcast... It's much much higher... But in a perfect market (economical theory), there are no profits... You get as much as you spend... So who's really ripping off who here?
The TV's actually broadcast it free of charge to the viewers so why don't they do it too? The only difference is that TV networks get their revenue from adds and not viewers... So why don't they do the same...
So, when the assimetries between the world population start to grow even higher, give yourself a big pat on the back...
Please provide your sources that suggest that the cost of paying for Cycling.tv is much higher than the costs incurred by the company. As far as I'm aware, they've been operating at a loss for the past three years.
Also answer me this: If you can watch all the races for free on the television, then why are you stealing Cycling.tv's coverage anyway?
I'd kick the shit out of your argument further, but you appear to have just assembled a barely legible pseudo-socialist justification for stealing, with no real care for making a coherent argument or demonstrating an understanding of basic English language.
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Posted on 06-05-2008 13:47
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turismo wrote:
Please provide your sources that suggest that the cost of paying for Cycling.tv is much higher than the costs incurred by the company. As far as I'm aware, they've been operating at a loss for the past three years.
Also answer me this: If you can watch all the races for free on the television, then why are you stealing Cycling.tv's coverage anyway?
I'd kick the shit out of your argument further, but you appear to have just assembled a barely legible pseudo-socialist justification for stealing, which no real care for making a coherent argument or understanding basic English language.
I don't watch Cycling.tv...
And, if all the people that watch it illegally paid the fee, Cycling.tv would definitely have profit... But, if such a scenario was to happen, I really don't think they would drop the price of the service...
It's not a justification for stealing, it's a justification for them to drop the prices...
As far as the last part of your post goes, which part don't you understand? Maybe if I wrote it in Portuguese you would understand better or, given your history of personal insults in some other threads, if I put a certain symbol here...
Edited by p3druh on 06-05-2008 13:48
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Posted on 06-05-2008 13:57
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p3druh wrote:I don't watch Cycling.tv...
Congratulations, you're free from this thread. Go and enjoy your bountiful cycling coverage while the big boys discuss this properly. |
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Posted on 06-05-2008 14:11
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turismo wrote:
p3druh wrote:I don't watch Cycling.tv...
Congratulations, you're free from this thread. Go and enjoy your bountiful cycling coverage while the big boys discuss this properly.
I'm not going to drop to your level... So please, don't waste another word replying to any of my posts...
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| turismo |
Posted on 06-05-2008 14:22
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One down. Who else is going to try to justify ripping off CTV's feeds? |
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Posted on 06-05-2008 14:26
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turismo wrote:
One down. Who else is going to try to justify ripping off CTV's feeds?
I paid for it and it rarely ever works on this PC, the laptop, my neighbour's, the other laptop, or the PC at work (just so you know it's not the PC's or the connection's fault).
Usually I get an error, or some stupid error that logs me out automatically, the video on demand seems to be unavailable most of the time when it should be, the transmissions, when I get to watch them are always late.
So, if you really want them to justify stealing the feed, first justify to me why you took my money and provide a service that is far below common standard in availability (not to mention the frustrating lack of usability of the site)
I await your typical "divert the issue and agressively answer nothing-at-all" response.
Edited by issoisso on 06-05-2008 14:27
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| p3druh |
Posted on 06-05-2008 14:28
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What? You think you won?  You're more pathetic than I thought...
You didn't win... I just don't want to argue with someone that recurs to insults to "prove" a point...
Edited by p3druh on 06-05-2008 14:28
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 06-05-2008 14:44
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turismo wrote:
One down. Who else is going to try to justify ripping off CTV's feeds?
Ahem, Internet Piracy Handbook chapter 3, paragrah 11: If one is not trying to protect his property, he shall not complain.
You have yet to attempt to shut down the site that infringe your copyright or closed the loophole.
Internet Piracy Handbook chapter 1, the very first line: One cannot compete with free.
In summary: Tell the owner of the site of fix the loopholes, take legal action against the site that is ripping CTV's feeds, THEN (thats the keyword) comeback here and play moral guardian of all thats good.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2008 17:41
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You really expect people not to watch something when it is so stupidly easy to watch it free?
This is unfortunately not a problem with those who watch it for free, people will always do that. The only solution is to actually have a secure system 
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