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Random Form (the arrow)
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| hairingtons |
Posted on 05-07-2015 21:45
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Is it completely random or can you control it somehow?
I ask because so far on PCM15 I have not had a form more than +3. And most of the time I find that I get 0 or - form.
Even on races where my arrow starts by pointing up. I find that it changes, and later decides to point down, and I get - form.
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| lm599171 |
Posted on 06-07-2015 05:13
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I constantly get 0 to -5 no matter how good my training is, for example i got -3 twice in a row with the attatched fitness
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| Christer |
Posted on 06-07-2015 05:38
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It's random, and represents when the rider is feeling better or worse than normal. -5 means he's having a really shitty day, while having +5 means he's feeling like he could take on the world and win. The arrow changes because you can feel shit or great in the start of a race, but as you go on you'll realize that you doesn't feel that good/bad after all.
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| hairingtons |
Posted on 06-07-2015 14:43
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Cheers.
Any thoughts on whether attacking, collecting water bottles, using the dot , etc affect it? |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 06-07-2015 16:42
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It's impossible to affect it. It is random.
But using more energy will reveal the number faster. |
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| hairingtons |
Posted on 07-07-2015 19:11
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Lachi wrote:
using more energy will reveal the number faster.
Ah ok, that's probably what I see. |
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| Sage |
Posted on 08-07-2015 09:12
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It should be a way to control it somehow, because the bonus of +5 or -5 is way too high! 
Or at least it should be a stat like mentality to improve the probability of better/worse daily form number taking into account last results, form, etc.
I like the idea of the daily form; I just don't like the implementation in the game 
~Miau.
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| blackbox |
Posted on 08-07-2015 10:46
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I am pretty sure that my numbers changed some times during races, so the initial number is not the final one...
So, first you get an arrow, then an initial value, this one will change during race until it is "fixed" and gets a colour. |
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| Dee-Jay |
Posted on 08-07-2015 13:11
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Sage wrote:
It should be a way to control it somehow, because the bonus of +5 or -5 is way too high!
Or at least it should be a stat like mentality to improve the probability of better/worse daily form number taking into account last results, form, etc.
I like the idea of the daily form; I just don't like the implementation in the game
Thats a nice idea - mentality or something like that.
The game should perhaps have an additional stat or two and without too much work. And get rid of the stupid prologue stat which is a waste - just merge it with the TT stat. Maybe the fighter stat should be remodelled too. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 08-07-2015 13:22
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Sage wrote:
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| alex valceanu |
Posted on 08-07-2015 13:29
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I had a +5 in Paris-Roubix with Thomas and +5 in Fleche with S.Henao . I won both of them on hard . +5 is just huge boost . I must mention it was in my career with Sky and both had excellent form and excellent rythm(maybe it has an effect ) 
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| skylax |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:39
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Doing training camps on stages of the Tour, Giro, Vuelta gives a boost to daily form on those certain stages as well imo. Also, leaders and Sprinters can't get a -5 and -4, I think. Beside that, it is completely random. And actually, this is pretty realistic. +5/-5 shouldn't happen that often, but most of the times you will see 0, +1,-1 and so on. So this is actually a feature I pretty much appreciate. |
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| Sage |
Posted on 08-07-2015 23:16
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Ian Butler wrote:
Sage wrote:
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Click 'edit' and then 'delete this post'
Thank you so much
skylax wrote:
Doing training camps on stages of the Tour, Giro, Vuelta gives a boost to daily form on those certain stages as well imo. Also, leaders and Sprinters can't get a -5 and -4, I think. Beside that, it is completely random. And actually, this is pretty realistic. +5/-5 shouldn't happen that often, but most of the times you will see 0, +1,-1 and so on. So this is actually a feature I pretty much appreciate.
I don't know in PCM15 because I haven't played that much besides Armada; but in PCM14 leaders could get -5 more than often in the queen stage of a Tour de France
~Miau.
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| emre99 |
Posted on 08-07-2015 23:33
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Well here is an example,
I started a career with Team Sky (so hard to win races  .), and In January 2nd, I have made my Grand Tour roster already with the riders and than done these (A LOT OF) trainings as I have 7M€.
For Tour de France;
Before a month : one 8-day Mountain Training - 5 star. one 4-day Cobble Training - 3 star. 5-day TTT Camp. 5 Day ITT Camp.
In the time of Giro : 3 different Tour de France camps including total of 23 days.
And was that acceptable, pretty much as I win the Tour De France ahead 5 minutes from contador by doing a lot of times in 'cobbled' and 'TT' stages.
I gone a little bit further, but 'Marginal Gains' ! (I hoped a Caravan for Froome )
Neither Froome,Poels,Porte has gone to Suisse, all stacked up on DAuphine.
#FREELANDA #FREELIA MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
emre99's stages
Thread of the Week : Tour of California 2014
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PCM.daily Awards : 2 Nominee 0 Award
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''I call you the stage god. You are the stage god.'' -baseballover312, 15.07.2016
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| emre99 |
Posted on 08-07-2015 23:43
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alex valceanu wrote:
I had a +5 in Paris-Roubix with Thomas and +5 in Fleche with S.Henao . I won both of them on hard . +5 is just huge boost . I must mention it was in my career with Sky and both had excellent form and excellent rythm(maybe it has an effect )
Sky.
Sky is the effect.
Sky is the answer of everything .
https://pcmdaily.com/photogallery.php?...lbum_id=65
#FREELANDA #FREELIA MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
emre99's stages
Thread of the Week : Tour of California 2014
-Official PCM World Cup 2016, 10th best keirin player in the world
PCM.daily Awards : 2 Nominee 0 Award
Daily Song Contest WINNER! With Foals - Mountain at my Gates with Greece!
1 like 1 girlfriend
''I call you the stage god. You are the stage god.'' -baseballover312, 15.07.2016
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