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How accurate are the game's gradients?
Tafiolmo
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Posted on 11-11-2013 20:29
Whenever I look at Cyanide's profiles and compare climbs from different years, there are some large differences, which makes me think just how accurate are these gradients. I know when somebody designs a stage they can get things right. For example looking at the Tour Down Under and a climb like Checker Hill in the 2014 route it has an average gradient of 6.1% and a maximum of 7.6%. In an earlier route from 2011 it had an average 5.5% and a maximum of 11.9%, which is a big difference in its maximum gradient!

I did some independent research on the internet and saw there is just one way up this climb and its maximum depending where you look is between 14-16%.

So where do Cyanide get their data from, as these differences are quite huge.
 
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Posted on 11-11-2013 20:41
The data and route is ok, but it all depends on the stage. So it doesn't follow the exact route as PCM works on a 1:10 scale, which mostly keeps gradients intact, but causes issues, so things like switchbacks are hard to do, it's all quite relative, making the game acurate is almost impossible, the hill I live on is deadly steep, in the game it's 3%, about 6% lower than real life.
 
Tafiolmo
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Posted on 11-11-2013 21:03
Ok I understand this, but if this is the case why are there differences between the figures given on Checker Hill between the PCM2011 and PCM2013 games? We're talking about the same climb or have Cyanide changed the scaling since then?
 
Selwink
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Posted on 11-11-2013 21:08
Are you sure they ascend it on the same side? If they do, it might be a not 100% accurately made stage or something
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Posted on 11-11-2013 22:13
It really depends on who makes the stage. Some stagemakers opt for lower percentages because the game plays better that way, although it may be inaccurate.
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Tafiolmo
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Posted on 11-11-2013 22:28
Selwink wrote:
Are you sure they ascend it on the same side? If they do, it might be a not 100% accurately made stage or something


I thought it ascended on the same side, but now I'm not so certain, if it ascends on two sides then that would explain the difference.Smile
 
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Posted on 11-11-2013 23:01
Unless both stages are based on the same .zcts file, it's almost impossible to get the exact same gradient for every meter of the climb
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