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How does potential work?
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 13-01-2008 14:30
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Is potential handled by the game as a set number for each stat, or is it a total ability level where a rider tops out when reached?
My question has to do with signing young talent.
Assuming my scout is accurate, and I needed a stage racer, would it be better to hire an "excellent" sprinter or fighter and train him for stage races, or a "good" stage racer.
If potential is handled as a total number for all attributes, I should be able to take a young rider with high potential and turn him into whatever type of rider I want. But if maximum potential in each attribute is based on the "type" of rider he is (a "excellent" sprinter's MO stat tops out at 70, while a "good" climber's MO can reach 79), that wouldn't work.
Does anyone know? |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 13-01-2008 15:28
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It's not related to individual stats no - it's just the young rider will already have some stats a lot better than others
And only rely on the words of mythical scouts, any others and it's probably wrong  |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 13-01-2008 16:13
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yes, but I found out something:
everytime I scout riders with a mythical scout, there are some riders with potential "great". If I watch these riders for getting their stats, the potential after this is most of the time only "average" or "bad". So my scouts are always wrong...:x
Edited by cio93 on 13-01-2008 17:12
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| Darkphoenix |
Posted on 14-01-2008 06:58
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Mine does the same thing. I always individually watch talents after I scout the area and you find out which ones the good ones are. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-01-2008 09:27
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Potential 8 : 425 points to share on the five key stats (depending of the speciality of your rider)
Potential 7 : 410 points
and so forth...
Depending from the potential of the riders, you'll get a sentence from your scout. The same sentence always shows the same potential (or almost), I know PCM Assistance did a tutorial about this for the former PCM, linking the sentences to the actual potential of the scouted rider. https://site.pcmas...2/lang,fr/ (the sentences are in French there, but you should find the corresponding sentences in your language in some tables of the DB).
Edited by Aquarius on 14-01-2008 09:28
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| YtimK |
Posted on 21-01-2008 08:19
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hey there I have a question concerning the 'mythical' attribute of the trainer's, scout's and doc's:
according to the patch release notes and your tellings trainer's, scout's and doc's have to exist having the mythical attribute.. so you can rely fully on their work
I use the german version of PCM and I have the latest Patch, but the trainer's I am able to hire only have the attribute's -national-, -international- and -excellent- (hope i translated it correctly)
so according to you guys there must be trainer's with an level above excellent did I get it right?
since I started at least 5 new careers after I installed the latest patch and I never saw one of these guys with the attribute mythical (might be 'mystisch' in German) I'm beginning to wonder..
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 21-01-2008 08:23
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Well the English version has: Regional, National, International and Mythical.
If in doubt, look at which ones are the most expensive, as that is probably going to be mythical
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| mateev |
Posted on 21-01-2008 17:48
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My friend I have only one advise to you-don't believe scouts opinion...There is only one way to see real potencial and the way is hannes converter or hannes editor!Read forums and you will know how to use hannes.When the season complete-15.10 you can see young riders atributes.The riders with good atributes (MO>67,TT>65,ACC>65,DH>75,FTR>78) stage racers often has a low potencial!This is very dissapointed.The riders with bed atributes mo 58-62,tt 58-62 and etc. has a potencial 7 or 8!So I sign a young riders with high atributes and if they have low atributes I just change their potencial with hannes!!!The scouts are experts,but I don't believe them!When they find the rider has a excellent potencial,"He will a future top cycling champion..." bla bla bla ,later the same rider has average potencial and whe you monitoring him,you see mo<65,tt<65 and etc...So you must learn how to use hannes! |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-01-2008 18:48
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Well, if you hire a mythical scout he will give you the correct results. |
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| YtimK |
Posted on 22-01-2008 09:17
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Well the English version has: Regional, National, International and Mythical.
If in doubt, look at which ones are the most expensive, as that is probably going to be mythical
forgot to name 'regional' it's also available in the german version.I just thought the mythical attribute wasn't available before the latest patch however im pretty sure I already signed one before I installed the latest patch.. well I think I was wrong 
My friend I have only one advise to you-don't believe scouts opinion...There is only one way to see real potencial and the way is hannes converter or hannes editor!Read forums and you will know how to use hannes.When the season complete-15.10 you can see young riders atributes.The riders with good atributes (MO>67,TT>65,ACC>65,DH>75,FTR>78) stage racers often has a low potencial!This is very dissapointed.The riders with bed atributes mo 58-62,tt 58-62 and etc. has a potencial 7 or 8!So I sign a young riders with high atributes and if they have low atributes I just change their potencial with hannes!!!The scouts are experts,but I don't believe them!When they find the rider has a excellent potencial,"He will a future top cycling champion..." bla bla bla ,later the same rider has average potencial and whe you monitoring him,you see mo<65,tt<65 and etc...So you must learn how to use hannes!
thx for your advive but I rather use the best scouts and rely on their meanings than to adjust the riders attributes only for having the best riders. i want to keep a slight bit of realism to the game
thx anyway I'll have an eye on the Hannes Editor maybe one time there will be a top talented little next year's tour champion in my team ;D |
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| Marginalo |
Posted on 29-01-2008 20:29
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CrueTrue wrote:
Well, if you hire a mythical scout he will give you the correct results.
Well, not always. But he'll be a lot closer then the crappy ones. The standard differentiation or whatever will be way less. A level 6 will be reported as L5-7 for instance, but it's not at all totally accurate.
Concretely: Potential 5 will spawn a occasional TdF or Giro stage winner, when he's fully grown. Think Kohl, Lang or something. Potential 6 will shape up a favorite for the classics types, the stage races, sprints etc. Think Boogerd, Bennati etc. Potential 7 will net your rider 85 on certain complementary statistics if you push him for it. Potential 8 will create you a scary monster. 
Edited by Marginalo on 29-01-2008 20:30
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| ruben |
Posted on 29-01-2008 23:59
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Anyway potential 8 riders are unreal...they really become too good
I played PCM with a modified original database, but without editing potential. Thomas Dekker absolutely dominates the Tour from 2010 to... 2017/2018 and i didn't even control him
Now, I'm the biggest fan of TD there is, but that's really IMPOSSIBLE. I'll be happy if he manages to win 1 in his entire career... |
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| Halvor |
Posted on 30-01-2008 14:29
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the best potential is 8, I think Dekker's got that. I "converted" him to 6. |
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