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equating racing days into fitness/tiredness graph
vouzela
For the ones who aren't up to read a long thread, just a quick question: why does a rider keep accumulating tiredness from training even though he can't race? It's just stupid...

The full story: I started a career with a Continental team that only had 11 riders. Thinking they wouldn't be enough to fulfil all the objectives, I hired 3 more, divided them into 2 groups of 7 and set their objectives differently. My idea was to make half of them race from February to May and the other half from June to October, with the primary goals were set to March and August. I know the number of racing days is not as strict as in later editions but I tried to book each of them for about 60 races.

The problem is that, in the beginning of April, the half that raced 26 days is tired and all their fitness graphs, which should remain green for two more months, are rapidly declining to red.

How do I take racing days into account when planning the fitness troughout the season? Is it random, should I make the riders stop for a week or so after each race, what is the best strategy?
 
Matrix
vouzela wrote:
For the ones who aren't up to read a long thread, just a quick question: why does a rider keep accumulating tiredness from training even though he can't race? It's just stupid...

The full story: I started a career with a Continental team that only had 11 riders. Thinking they wouldn't be enough to fulfil all the objectives, I hired 3 more, divided them into 2 groups of 7 and set their objectives differently. My idea was to make half of them race from February to May and the other half from June to October, with the primary goals were set to March and August. I know the number of racing days is not as strict as in later editions but I tried to book each of them for about 60 races.

The problem is that, in the beginning of April, the half that raced 26 days is tired and all their fitness graphs, which should remain green for two more months, are rapidly declining to red.

How do I take racing days into account when planning the fitness troughout the season? Is it random, should I make the riders stop for a week or so after each race, what is the best strategy?


It is now a balancing act. You try to give riders rest spots during the season, yet keep all you key riders prepared for a big race like the TDF. Dont use camps unless you have no races for a key rider and his fittness is awful with 1 week to his main race. Otherwise the training might make him peak way too early or worse start his primary race well...even hold a top spot, only to crumble near the end. Much like Evans did around week 2 of the TDF.
Pain,Agony,Suffering...Thats why I love cycling!Banana
 
Lachi
The fitness system works exactly as you plan it. You can click the bars to raise the fitness or right-click a bar to lower it. The game will calculate and show the fitness your rider will have. Also the game calculates at which point the fitness training will be too much, from this moment on, your rider will accumulate fatigue.

This system has nothing stupid about it. But it would be stupid for you as a player not to pay attention to this system. Either plan the fitness based on the races a rider is participating in or plan the races based on the estimated fitness.

There is a drawback though. If you use pre-season training camps (or any other means which increase the fitness), it will interfere with the calculated fitness. But this is somewhat obvious because the game cannot know that you are assigning training camps. So if you want to use fitness training camps, then I suggest you lower the fitness planning correspondingly.
 
vouzela
Great answers to really know a lot of general stuff that don't help at all. Please refrain yourslef from writing in every thread if you don't have anything useful to say.

The question is simple: the fitness graph planned at the beginning of the season only shows how the training will affect tiredness. It doesn't allow us to account the racing days into it. Anyone knows how to do it?
 
vouzela
Also, where in my initial message does it say anything about training camps?
 
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Lachi
vouzela wrote:
For the ones who aren't up to read a long thread, just a quick question: why does a rider keep accumulating tiredness from training even though he can't race? It's just stupid...
I answered to this. Don't ask if you don't want an answer.

vouzela wrote:
The question is simple: the fitness graph planned at the beginning of the season only shows how the training will affect tiredness. It doesn't allow us to account the racing days into it. Anyone knows how to do it?

The answer is simple too: Race days don't matter.
It is not forbidden to read the manual or the online guide if you want to learn more about this game.
 
tellico
They need to rest few days to regain their freshness. I dont know what is the rate of recovery. It would be logical if the rider needed more time to recover at the end of a hard season than at the beginning but this is Cyanide world. You cant be sure anything.
 
vouzela
Lachi wrote:
vouzela wrote:
The question is simple: the fitness graph planned at the beginning of the season only shows how the training will affect tiredness. It doesn't allow us to account the racing days into it. Anyone knows how to do it?

The answer is simple too: Race days don't matter.
It is not forbidden to read the manual or the online guide if you want to learn more about this game.



How can you say that? Of course they matter, it is as I said in the first message of this thread.

Just do a simple exercise: make a training plan for a cyclist, take a screenshot of it and make him race every Continental event in your team schedule until April. Then take a second screenshot and compare it with the first one. You will see that tiredness will accumulate much faster than originally expected.
Edited by vouzela on 07-08-2013 19:03
 
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