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Brolanski
does he always leave my team?

I signed Hesjedal for the new season, but he wouldn't accept anything other than a one-year-contract and now early in January he's in my team and I tried to prolong the contract, but he wants to wait until July. Is there any way to keep him without using the editor?
 
ram 212
If he said he wants to mull over the offer then no there is know way of keeping him. Frown.
 
Brolanski
oy that sucks

what if I release him in June and sign him right away again for next year? would this work
 
Matrix
Brolanski wrote:
does he always leave my team?

I signed Hesjedal for the new season, but he wouldn't accept anything other than a one-year-contract and now early in January he's in my team and I tried to prolong the contract, but he wants to wait until July. Is there any way to keep him without using the editor?


That really depends, but seeing you made your offer already, you must wait it out.

If you have a rider you really want to keep, you need to decide a couple things.
1-If he leaves, is your team strong enough to win races the next year.
2-Are his results worth what he is asking.
3-Of your team, the riders who are unsigned for the next season. Can you afford them and how many of them do you know you need back.
4-Look and see if a rider is better, and has better results than who you want to keep. Is this rider worth going after more than the rider you "think" you want to keep.

Now, here is how you do it. If no rider fits the price range of your current rider, and you can sign most of your team for the next year. You must guess how much you can offer.

Example: Your team has 3 riders who you feel you need. Total cost for them is 200,000 out of a 2mil cap. Brings you down to 1.8mil. Now, you must add up your total team salary. Do not include the rider you want to keep or the 3 you resigned. The total comes to 1.5mil. Meaning you can offer a deal of 500,000 to the rider you want to have back. Chances are pretty high if you go over what he wants, even if he says he is going to "mull" over offers. That you made an offer he will take, because others only offer right at what he is asking...not more as you offered.

I used very exaggerated salary for this, so you see how it works. But, most times you will see a rider who is as good or better than who you are trying to resign. If that happens. You can either choose 1 to try for, and prob get if you use my example. Or you can give them both a strong offer. The issue is if they both take your offer...you could go bankrupt before you even start the next season.

It is a very fine balance. I always locate a rider to add to my shortlist who is near or above my current riders stats. That way if one leaves I can grab the shortlist rider. The easy way to keep many top riders is to edit your salary number. If the game gives you 1mil to sign riders when you start. If you edit that to 2mil...you can load the team with many top riders, easily at that. But I like to stay realistic, so I just have to do math, and hope it works out when the email arrives at what they are going to stay. If they offer a counter, if you have the money, go a bit past the counter offer.

Always remember, if you think you can land 2-3 big name riders. To check your salary situation. Because if they say yes, and your over budget, even cutting riders cost money. And most times, it cost more to cut them than let them on the team. A rider who has a 200k deal for 2yrs really would be owed say 400k or so to cut. Leaving you 400k less than your requirement is.
Pain,Agony,Suffering...Thats why I love cycling!Banana
 
Brolanski
Thanks matrix. Yes I can afford him for the next season, even with the max salary the bosses will let me pay.The only problem is he doesn't seem to accept the deal.

Now I could certainly get another rider whose contract expires, but if anyhow possible, Id like to keep Hesjedal.

What if I have him ride pretty much all the big races until end of June, release him then, pay compensation (which is a lot, but money is not really the problem as most of my other riders don't take that much), and sign him again for January next year, maybe for a longer contract, so I can prolong normally then. I think I read riders will always be fine with the offer if their contract isn't expiring Or will he always want one year only?
 
Matrix
Brolanski wrote:
Thanks matrix. Yes I can afford him for the next season, even with the max salary the bosses will let me pay.The only problem is he doesn't seem to accept the deal.

Now I could certainly get another rider whose contract expires, but if anyhow possible, Id like to keep Hesjedal.

What if I have him ride pretty much all the big races until end of June, release him then, pay compensation (which is a lot, but money is not really the problem as most of my other riders don't take that much), and sign him again for January next year, maybe for a longer contract, so I can prolong normally then. I think I read riders will always be fine with the offer if their contract isn't expiring Or will he always want one year only?


You could try it. But you then have a risk that the rider may sign with another team. Something I found works is to start putting the riders you want on your team most in bigger races. And put you other highest stat riders on the team with them. Make him leader and the rest teammates. If you place top 10-15 in races (win some is even better) then you stand a higher chance to resign him. Because he is happy due to results.
Pain,Agony,Suffering...Thats why I love cycling!Banana
 
Brolanski
Thanks again.

I experimented a bit and found out that I can sign him as a Free Agent when I fire him after he signed a contract with another team. It's odd, but I guess I'll take that path.
 
Blueprint
Using the editor seems easier to me Wink

Anyway, I just accept it as part of the game, can't control everything. Although sometimes it can be really painful.
 
Tortug
In my experience if a rider does not want to renew his contract in January, in July tells me the same.

Maybe I'm too hard and they hate me Sad Grin
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