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Phil O'Donnell
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 29-12-2007 19:59
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This is a tragic development that happened this afternoon. He was captain of the club I support and a legend of it, despite his injury hit career. Phil O'Donnell, RIP
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:05
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let me guess. heart, right?
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| p3druh |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:07
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RIP Phil O'Donnell...
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:09
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issoisso wrote:
let me guess. heart, right?
Yup. A seizure. these seem to be becoming more common within the game, which is a shame. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:13
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
Yup. A seizure. these seem to be becoming more common within the game, which is a shame.
they've always been far more common in most sports than they should be. athletes that are perfectly healthy keep having heart problems that they shouldn't have. and it's not for lack of medical supervision. it's because nandrolone, corticosteroids, etc, destroy your heart and lungs.
yup, I said it.
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Posted on 29-12-2007 20:16
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I agree with you on this one. I think drug use in football is widespread - its just a shame that dope tests aren't as stringent as they should be. Then again, the testers are always one step behind the dopers it seems in any sport.  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:19
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it's worse than that.
did you see what happened to the football players named in Puerto? Valencia, Sevilla, Barça, Real Madrid....they all magically disappeared from the list.
it's always swept under the rug carefully...
the only sports where I'll admit the possibility of a portion of the athletes being clean are those where something is actually done about doping. and that's cycling, handball and not much else.
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Posted on 29-12-2007 20:23
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issoisso wrote:
it's worse than that.
did you see what happened to the football players named in Puerto? Valencia, Sevilla, Barça, Real Madrid....they all magically disappeared from the list.
it's always swept under the rug carefully...
the only sports where I'll admit the possibility of a portion of the athletes being clean are those where something is actually done about doping. and that's cycling, handball and not much else.
So true. I noticed tennis got away too in Puerto. Its all about whether the money is there in the sport concerned to pay for the rug and the broom...if you get what I mean
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Posted on 29-12-2007 20:27
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to be honest, I don't really care if they're all doped, as the playing ground is level and it's their own health they're screwing up, not mine.
what I do care about is those who are clean having a mountain to climb. that I get mad about.
how many clean guys have marginal careers when they could've been great? that is pretty sad
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Posted on 29-12-2007 20:36
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as a sports fan, I'm not interested in watching doped atheletes - I want to see people achieve things through talent, fitness and preperation, not whose got the best 'contacts'. Its this which makes doping an unlevel playing field: people are always looking for better 'stuff' than their competitors, and you are automatically making it unfair to those atheletes who wish to compete without unnesscessary health risks. And yes, such people do exist. |
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Posted on 29-12-2007 20:39
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
as a sports fan, I'm not interested in watching doped atheletes - I want to see people achieve things through talent, fitness and preperation, not whose got the best 'contacts'. Its this which makes doping an unlevel playing field: people are always looking for better 'stuff' than their competitors, and you are automatically making it unfair to those atheletes who wish to compete without unnesscessary health risks. And yes, such people do exist.
very true
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Posted on 29-12-2007 22:51
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Very tragic event. RIP |
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Posted on 29-12-2007 23:35
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Just heard about it on the tv, jus a he was being subbed, he collaped
RIP
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
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Posted on 30-12-2007 09:55
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RIP Phil
Team Champion manager
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