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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 29-12-2007 16:28
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What is everyone's favorite race to play on PCM? I have to break my favorites down in three categories: Grand Tours, Stage Races and Single Day Races. I tend to like the longer tours the most, mainly because you can have a bad day or a bad section of a race and still come back from it.
Of the three Grand Tours the TdF is the best mainly due to its importance but the Giro is a close second because it usually has more mountain stages and mountain top finishes. I do love racing in the mountains and my team is usually built for this. The Vuelta is a distant third.
Stages races I would have to go with the Dauphine and Tour de Suisse again due to the nice mountain stages. The Tour of California and Georgia are close but that is due to my American bias.
Single day races are tougher to single out because there are so many. I would have to give an edge to the Cobbels because I do not do well in the hilly races or the ones with a bunch sprint like Milan-San Remo. I would have to say that the Tour of Flanders is my favorite but Paris-Robaix is a close second. I may have selected a few other races but I can not remember their names at the moment. The Ardennes Classics are by far my worst races. I usually do not do well but that might be because I do not build my teams for those races. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 29-12-2007 17:43
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The ronde is the classic I like most, too.
You don't only need a good cobbler, he has to get over these short, but sharp hills easy, otherwise it will be difficult to win.
Paris-Roubaix is a bit too boring in my opinion...
Edited by cio93 on 29-12-2007 17:46
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-12-2007 18:42
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In general, I always look forward to Paris - Roubaix although I think it was funnier in PCM05 and PCM06 due to more crashes. Of the stage races, I, like you, really like Tour de France due to its importance. I don't think I've ever won it, though  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 18:59
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CrueTrue wrote:
In general, I always look forward to Paris - Roubaix although I think it was funnier in PCM05 and PCM06 due to more crashes. Of the stage races, I, like you, really like Tour de France due to its importance. I don't think I've ever won it, though
yay! I did! by two seconds from Ullrich 
but I like the Giro better. why? because I like it better in real life as well 
I also look forward to most other races a lot more than I do to the tour, both in game and in real life.
speaking of real life...when the heck does Paris-Nice start?...I'm getting impatient...
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-12-2007 19:06
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Paris-Nice? Why that race? I mean, the Pro Tour starts very soon with the almighty and very exciting Tour Down Under... |
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| p3druh |
Posted on 29-12-2007 19:27
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Monte Paschi Eroica is a great race to run in PCM... And in real life it's very exciting too... Every single edition was great 
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 29-12-2007 19:57
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I think my favourite races are Paris-Nice, the Tour, and the Tour of Britain(!) in PCM
In real life I love cobbled classics such as Paris-Roubaix, but this love doesn't transfer well over to PCM, because I'm not very good at them |
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:30
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p3druh wrote:
Monte Paschi Eroica is a great race to run in PCM... And in real life it's very exciting too... Every single edition was great
I have not tried this race yet. It was featured in last months Cycle Sport Magazine, or was it a different magazine. It sounds pretty cool, lots of gravel. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:34
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ABridgeTooFar wrote:
p3druh wrote:
Monte Paschi Eroica is a great race to run in PCM... And in real life it's very exciting too... Every single edition was great
I have not tried this race yet. It was featured in last months Cycle Sport Magazine, or was it a different magazine. It sounds pretty cool, lots of gravel.
speaking of gravel...next year's Giro mountain TT up the Kronplatz includes the final 5km slope on gravel roads that had to be abandoned in 2006 B) (the one with the 24% gradient)
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| p3druh |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:36
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ABridgeTooFar wrote:
p3druh wrote:
Monte Paschi Eroica is a great race to run in PCM... And in real life it's very exciting too... Every single edition was great
I have not tried this race yet. It was featured in last months Cycle Sport Magazine, or was it a different magazine. It sounds pretty cool, lots of gravel.
If the profile of the race in PCM is accurate, it is much harder than every other cobble race i've ever seen...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:40
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p3druh wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
p3druh wrote:
Monte Paschi Eroica is a great race to run in PCM... And in real life it's very exciting too... Every single edition was great
I have not tried this race yet. It was featured in last months Cycle Sport Magazine, or was it a different magazine. It sounds pretty cool, lots of gravel.
If the profile of the race in PCM is accurate, it is much harder than every other cobble race i've ever seen...
it's not really a cobble race. it's a mountainous classic where some roads are on gravel (= gravilha). not cobbles, although there are a few short sections.
since in PCM there isn't any gravel, the makers of the stage chose to simulate it using cobbles.
this made me think: a good idea for new pcms would be differente severities for different cobble sections.
I mean, you can hardly compare clean, flat cobbles to the Carrefour de l'Arbre...
a topic for "suggestions for PCM08" would be nice, but I don't think cyanide would pay any attention to it...
Edited by issoisso on 29-12-2007 20:42
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| p3druh |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:46
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issoisso wrote:
p3druh wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
p3druh wrote:
Monte Paschi Eroica is a great race to run in PCM... And in real life it's very exciting too... Every single edition was great
I have not tried this race yet. It was featured in last months Cycle Sport Magazine, or was it a different magazine. It sounds pretty cool, lots of gravel.
If the profile of the race in PCM is accurate, it is much harder than every other cobble race i've ever seen...
it's not really a cobble race. it's a mountainous classic where some roads are on gravel (= gravilha). not cobbles, although there are a few short sections.
For me, every race that has cobble, no mater how small, is considered a cobble race...
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:46
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Tour of America
Tour of California
CSC Invitational.
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| p3druh |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:49
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issoisso wrote:
a topic for "suggestions for PCM08" would be nice, but I don't think cyanide would pay any attention to it...
Drown them in e-mails... I'm sure they will open at least one and read it... Or maybe not... With cyanide you never know...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 20:53
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Levi4life wrote:
Tour of America
Tour of California
CSC Invitational.
you're just begging for Lewis Black's "Why the US isn't number one" routine
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-12-2007 21:03
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p3druh wrote:
issoisso wrote:
a topic for "suggestions for PCM08" would be nice, but I don't think cyanide would pay any attention to it...
Drown them in e-mails... I'm sure they will open at least one and read it... Or maybe not... With cyanide you never know...
You could always make me forward the ideas, like I did with the patch experiences  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 21:06
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CrueTrue wrote:
You could always make me forward the ideas, like I did with the patch experiences
different severities for cobble sections, travels taken into account so a rider doesn't race in Australia one day and in Europe the next, and above all: STOP GC contenders from contesting hilly stages in Grand Tours!!! breaks should be allowed to go and gain a big advantage as long as no one dangerous is there
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 29-12-2007 21:19
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Escalada Du Montjuich, Le Samyn, Giro de (?) Capo. In that order
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| p3druh |
Posted on 29-12-2007 21:22
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i have some ideas to:
- Each team should have a under 23 team and there should be under 23 races. You wouldn't be able to play them but you would be able to see the results.
- crashes and punctures in the TTs
-And the secundary sponsors should have play a bigger part in the teams budget...
That's all... For now...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-12-2007 21:28
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p3druh wrote:
i have some ideas to:
- Each team should have a under 23 team and there should be under 23 races. You wouldn't be able to play them but you would be able to see the results.
- crashes and punctures in the TTs
-And the secundary sponsors should have play a bigger part in the teams budget...
That's all... For now...
the first would be a major change to the game and couldn't be put in right now. It'd have to wait until the start of the design phase of PCM09.
the second is quite feasible.
and the third is a bit too generic to say anything about it.
overall I like those suggestions
EDIT: here's one: time trials need to be changed. different riders have varying quality in different lengths of Time trials. for instance,
8km would be great for Wiggins or McGee.
Bodrogi does better if the distance is around 30-40
Rogers around 50-55
and I'm not even talking about turns as the engine likely won't allow for it (Zabriskie's ideal TT is a straight line. Savoldelli's has a bunch of tight turns)
Edited by issoisso on 29-12-2007 21:36
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