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Ardennes Classics
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 07-04-2013 22:14
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Now the cobbels are over, it's time for the "Ardennes", the hilly classics. This thread is for Brabantse Pijl, Amstel Gold Race and La Fleche Wallonne.
Liège-Bastogne-Liège will get, as a monument, it's own thread later on.
Brabantse Pijl
La Fleche Wallonne
Edited by CrueTrue on 10-04-2013 16:30
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 07-04-2013 23:34
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First up, Brabantse Pijl, which starts Wednesday 10th.
Provisional startlist:
Spoiler Team Europcar
1. Thomas Voeckler (Fra); 2. Yukiya Arashiro (Fra); 3. Sébastien Chavanel (Fra); 4. Tony Hurel (Fra); 5. Vincent Jerome (Fra); 6. Davide Malacarne (Ita); 7. Kevin Reza (Fra); 8. Angelo Tulik (Fra)
BMC Racing Team
11. Philippe Gilbert; 12. Adam Blythe (GBr); 13. Yannick Eijssen; 14. Martin K?hler (Zwi); 16. Klaas Lodewyck; 17. Greg Van Avermaet; 18. Danilo Wyss (Zwi)
Cannondale Pro Cycling Team
21. Peter Sagan (Svk); 22. Stefan Agostini (Ita); 23. Daniele Ratto (Ita); 24. Damiano Caruso (Ita); 25. Tiziano Dall Antonia (Ita); 26. Lucas Sebastian Haedo (Arg); 27. Edward King (VSt); 28. Moreno Moser (Ita)
Garmin-Sharp
31. Daniel Martin (Ier); 32. Thomas Dekker (Ned); 33. Caleb Fairly (VSt); 34. Nathan Haas (Aus); 36. Michel Kreder (Ned); 37. Alex Rasmussen (Den); 38. Steele Von Hoff (Aus)
Katusha Team
41. Simon Spilak (Slo); 42. Pavel Brutt (Rus); 43. Sergey Chernetski (Rus); 44. Xavier Florencio (Spa); 45. Mikhail Ignatyev (Rus); 46. Timofey Kritskiy (Rus); 47. Alexander Porsev (Rus); 48. Rüdiger Selig (Dui)
Lotto-Belisol
51. Dirk Bellemakers (Ned); 52. Gaetan Bille; 53. Olivier Kaisen; 54. Jurgen Van De Walle; 55. Tosh Van Der Sande; 56. Dennis Vanendert; 57. Kenny Dehaes; 58. Tim Wellens
Omega Pharma- Quickstep
61. Sylvain Chavanel (FRa); 62. Kevin De Weert; 63. Nikolas Maes; 64. Jérôme Pineau (Fra); 65. Pieter Serry; 66. Kristof Vandewalle; 67. Martin Velits (Slo); 68. Julien Vermote
Radioshack - Leopard
72. Jan Bakelants; 74. Stijn Devolder; 75. Tony Gallopin (Fra); 76. Ben Hermans; 77. Bob Jungels (Lux); 78. Benjamin King (VSt)
Team Argos-Shimano
81. Simon Geschke (Dui); 82. Thomas Damuseau (Fra); 83. Johannes Fröhlinger (Dui); 84. Thierry Hupond (Fra); 85. Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg (ZAf); 86. François Parisien (Can); 87. Matthieu Sprick (Fra); 88. Albert Timmer (Ned)
Team Saxo - Tinkoff
91. Nicki Sörensen (Den); 92. Jonathan Cantwell (Aus); 93. Jonas Aaen Jörgensen (Den); 94. Karsten Kroon (Ned); 95. Marko Kump (Slo); 96. Jay McCarthy (Aus); 97. Takashi Miyazawa (Jap)
Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Team
101. Thomas De Gendt; 102. Sergey Lagutin (Oes); 103. Björn Leukemans; 104. Pim Ligthart (Ned); 105. Marco Marcato (Ita); 106. Wouter Poels (Ned); 107. Rob Ruijgh (Ned); 108. Frederik Veuchelen
Accent Jobs - Wanty
111. Danilo Napolitano (Ita); 112. Jérôme Gilbert; 113. Grégory Habeaux; 114. Will Routley (Can); 115. Staf Scheirlinckx; 116. Steven Caethoven; 117. Jurgen Van Goolen; 118. Nicolas Vogondy (Fra)
Champion System Pro Team
121. Matthew Brammeier (Ier); 122. Gang Xu (Chn); 123. Chad Beyer (VSt); 124. Wang Yip Tang (HKg) 125. Jae Chan Jang (Kor); 126. Ryota Nishizono (Jap); 127. Craig Lewis (VSt); 128. Ryan Roth (Can)
Cofidis, Solutions
131. Nico Sijmens; 132. Florent Barle (Fra); 133. Nicolas Edet (Fra); 135. Jan Ghyselinck; 136. Arnaud Labbe (Fra); 137. Romain Zingle
Crelan-Euphony
141. Klaas Sys; 142. Koen Barbé; 143. Joeri Bueken; 144. Sébastien Delfosse; 145. Gilles Devillers; 146. Reinier Honig (Ned); 147. Christophe Prémont; 148. Maxime Vantomme
IAM Cycling
151. Marcel Aregger (Zwi); 152. Matthias Brandle (Oos); 153. Kristof Goddaert; 154. Jonathan Fumeaux (Zwi); 155. Reto Hollenstein (Zwi); 156. Pirmin Lang (Zwi); 157. Alexandr Pliuschin (Mol); 158. Patrick Schelling (Zwi)
MTN Qhubeka
161. Gerard Ciolek (Dui); 162. Ignatas Konovalovas (Lit); 163. Bradley Potgieter (ZAf); 164. Youcef Reguigui (Alg); 165. Martin Reimer (Dui); 166. Kristian Sbaragli (Ita); 167. Jim Songezo (ZAf); 168. Andreas Stauff (Dui)
CCC Polsat Polkowice
171. Davide Rebellin (Ita); 172. Adrian Kurek (Pol); 173. Adrian Honkisz (Pol); 174. Jaroslaw Marycz (Pol); 175. Bartlomiej Matysiak (Pol); 177. Lukasz Owsian (Pol); 178. Mateusz Taciak (Pol)
Rusvelo
181. Gennady Tatarinov (Rus); 182. Andrei Solomennikov (Rus); 183. Valery Kaykov (Rus); 184. Sergey Klimov (Rus); 185. Roman Maikin (Rus); 186. Alexander Rybakov (Rus); 187. Alexander Mironov (Rus)
Team NetApp - Endura
191. Daniel Schorn (Oos); 192. David De La Cruz (Spa); 193. Ralf Matzka (Dui); 194. Jonathan McEvoy (GBr); 195. Erick Rowsell (GBr); 196. Michael Schwarzmann (Dui); 197. Scott Thwaeites (GBr); 198. Paul Voss (Dui)
Topsport Vlaanderen
201. Sander Armee; 202. Laurens De Vreese; 203. Sander Helven; 204. Pieter Jacobs; 205. Jarl Salomein; 206. Arthur Vanoverberghe; 207. Tom Van Asbroeck; 208. Preben Van Hecke
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211. Alessandro Bazzana (Ita); 212. Ben Day (Aus); 213. Marc De Maar (Aho); 214. Philip Deignan (Ier); 215. Lucas Euser (VSt); 216. Christopher Jones (VSt); 217. Jeff Louder (VSt); 218. Kiel Reijnen (VSt)
Vini Fantini
221. Kevin Hulsmans; 222. Stefano Borchi (Ita); 223. Pier Paolo De Negri (Ita); 224. Roberto De Patre (Ita); 225. Michele Merlo (Ita); 226. Mattia Pozzo (Ita); 227. Junya Sano (Jap); 228. Fabio Taborre (Ita)
Map:
Profile:
Finish expected between 17:15 and 17:45 local time.
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Peter Sagan/CAN
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Philippe Gilbert, Greg Van Avermaet/BMC
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Gerald Ciolek/MTN, Moreno Moser/CAN, Bjorn Leukemans/VCD, Simon Spilak/KAT
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Thomas Voeckler/EUC, Wout Poels/VCD, Sylvain Chavanel, Pieter Serry, Zdenek Stybar/OPQ, Daniel Martin/GAR
Jelle Vanendert is not racing, he is suffering from an infection after his abandon in Pais Vasco. Same for Meersman, stomach problems.
Edited by ShortsNL on 09-04-2013 17:03
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 08-04-2013 07:21
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I'm wondering how far Stybar can get here, though it's probably Sagan time again.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-04-2013 07:28
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Dont know about Brabantes Pilj, but Sagan is my sure pick for Amstel. Brabantes Pilj will likely be won again with some late move by someone like Voeckler or similar aggresive rider. I am really looking forward to how Stybar will do in hilly classics, but he should be exhausted from Roubaix totally.
If it will come down to sprint, then likes of Sagan, Ciolek, Meersman and Geschke could be near the front.
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 08-04-2013 07:35
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Sagan or Gilbert will win this race
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Posted on 08-04-2013 07:39
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Would certainly put Sagan and Gilbert as 1 and 1a, you can start picking the outsiders after that. Plenty of good riders, and some teams that I think overall are better than either BMC or Cannondale.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-04-2013 07:47
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Gilbert really? I cant see him doing anything better than top5 in the classics against likes of Henao, Purito, Sagan(Amstel), Astana trio and many more. Or he was bluffing whole last month...
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 08-04-2013 11:16
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I'm afraid not. Gilbert looks over the hill, pun not intended... |
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Posted on 08-04-2013 11:25
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Does anybody have some info about Valverde , Cunego and Purito ? They are not racing here , but will they be in good shape for Fleche and LBL ?
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 08-04-2013 11:42
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Cunego isn't what he used to be and won't be battling for the win, I reckon. I guess Purito will be in a decent form, at least. Valverde wasn't doing so well, last time I heard. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-04-2013 12:36
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Lampre-wise, i would watch out for Ulissi, he is certainly a top 5 material. 
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| krisa |
Posted on 08-04-2013 12:39
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Lampre-wise, i would watch out for Ulissi, he is certainly a top 5 material.
Yeah indeed he was already really good in Italy. Also Cunego is in a great shape
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-04-2013 12:59
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Ian Butler wrote:
I'm afraid not. Gilbert looks over the hill, pun not intended...
Wasnt it over for Gilbert last season, and then he won the world champs? I dont think he will be at a good shape at the Brabantse Pijl, but for the rest he is top favorite imo. For Brabant I think a surprise like Van Avermaet or Meersman, maybe even Kroon
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-04-2013 13:06
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Selwink wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
I'm afraid not. Gilbert looks over the hill, pun not intended...
Wasnt it over for Gilbert last season, and then he won the world champs? I dont think he will be at a good shape at the Brabantse Pijl, but for the rest he is top favorite imo. For Brabant I think a surprise like Van Avermaet or Meersman, maybe even Kroon
That would not be much of a surprise, at least GVA and Meersman are the top 10 favourites right from the start.
World championship for Gilbert, why not, but that is long future. Ardennes, i think somwhere between 3-5 max.
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| juszta |
Posted on 08-04-2013 13:10
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krisa wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Lampre-wise, i would watch out for Ulissi, he is certainly a top 5 material.
Yeah indeed he was already really good in Italy. Also Cunego is in a great shape
I'm sorry, but how is Cunego in a great shape?
He finished 16th in the Basque country, 3'36" down in the GC behind the likes of Sammy Sánchez (in awful form...), Gadret or Danielson.
Let's not even mention Tirreno, when he finished a whopping 20 minutes behind Nibbles in the GC.
And yes, he did finish second in the really exctiting and highly contested race of Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali beating the likes of Basso or Rubiano, who are clearly top riders nowadays
But you are totally right with Ulissi, you gotta watch out for him!
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Also, I don't think either, that it's gonna be Gilbert's Ardennes season...
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Posted on 08-04-2013 13:11
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Selwink wrote:
Wasnt it over for Gilbert last season, and then he won the world champs? I dont think he will be at a good shape at the Brabantse Pijl, but for the rest he is top favorite imo. For Brabant I think a surprise like Van Avermaet or Meersman, maybe even Kroon
Gilbert top favourite? No way. I'll be surprised if he even podiums in any race. Amstel is Sagan's to lose, but that's a really open race I think.
And Kroon? He has been declining for 3 years now. 
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| krisa |
Posted on 08-04-2013 13:13
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juszta wrote:
krisa wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Lampre-wise, i would watch out for Ulissi, he is certainly a top 5 material.
Yeah indeed he was already really good in Italy. Also Cunego is in a great shape
I'm sorry, but how is Cunego in a great shape?
He finished 16th in the Basque country, 3'36" down in the GC behind the likes of Sammy Sánchez (in awful form...), Gadret or Danielson.
Let's not even mention Tirreno, when he finished a whopping 20 minutes behind Nibbles in the GC.
And yes, he did finish second in the really exctiting and highly contested race of Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali beating the likes of Basso or Rubiano, who are clearly top riders nowadays
But you are totally right with Ulissi, you gotta watch out for him!
Cunego stays Cunego he is always good at races like the gold race and I really should reconn with him. He has also a good uphill sprint
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 08-04-2013 13:15
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krisa wrote:
Cunego stays Cunego he is always good at races like the gold race and I really should reconn with him. He has also a good uphill sprint
He stopped being a contender years ago, if you ask me. He wont beat riders like Sagan in a sprint and wont drop them on the Cauberg.
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| krisa |
Posted on 08-04-2013 13:18
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nobody can beat sagan in an uphill sprint
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-04-2013 13:26
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krisa wrote:
nobody can beat sagan in an uphill sprint
Purito can and 2011 Gilbert too, but this year they need to drop him on Cauberg, because on flat sprint no chance for them.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 08-04-2013 13:26
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