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| GoncaloMC |
Posted on 28-03-2013 18:52
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Please, I need your help in Moiuntain TT, because I can't have good results even with the best climbers and I lost very important time.
What I have to do ? |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-03-2013 18:55
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Normally on a MTT (like Col d'Eze), MO stat is most important, not TT.
How are the other factors? (form, rec...) Did you divide their energy well? |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 28-03-2013 18:56
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Push hard toward the end of the climb(using Col d'Eze as example), and just keep pace with everyone else on the flat/lower mountain zone.
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| LLDS |
Posted on 28-03-2013 18:57
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It depends.
It this mountain or hilly TT ?
What are your rider's stats and do you mean by "good results" ?
Is his fitness high or not ?
How much RES does he have ? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-03-2013 18:59
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If there's a downhill in it(not always the case, but sometimes), it helps to go on a low effort on the downhill/flat parts of the stage, and using a higher effort on the climb(s)...
And indeed, Form is very, very important.
Edited by Jesleyh on 28-03-2013 18:59
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| GoncaloMC |
Posted on 28-03-2013 19:11
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I did a Giro with Nibali (2013 db), and there is a MTT finishing in Posa (I guess) and I am did that stage first just to practice, but I am always exceeded by the guy who starts after me |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 28-03-2013 19:15
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Form, as people said, is more important on MTT's
They are also shorter in length and are thus harder. The best advice is to save energy on any flat and downhills (60 or less) and use the saved energy to go quicker uphill.
As usual in a tt use the earlier, less good riders, to test various levels of effort to maximise the key riders performances.
Shorter ones like the Col d'Eze (which are more like hills) are harder, while longer ones with ups and downs (like the Tour) are much easier
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| GoncaloMC |
Posted on 28-03-2013 19:26
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Mountain-80
Form-88
Res-73
Rec-78
It's a Mountain TT, not an Hilly TT.
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| GoncaloMC |
Posted on 28-03-2013 19:42
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And what's the difference of using the level of effort or not chosing the level ? |
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 28-03-2013 20:20
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For all TT's I always would advise choosing an effort level, for a simple way to get a good result, regardless of the type of ITT (flat,hilly,mountain) use your first few riders to find what effort you can set at the start, and not change it to where the riders still have just a tiny bit of energy left at the finish line.
At this point you can just set your remaining riders to that effort, and they will have pretty good results, or as others said you can tweak things even more by saving effort on downhills/flats and spending more on uphills.
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| GoncaloMC |
Posted on 28-03-2013 21:01
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You say that I should always use an effort level ? Even in downhills or in flats ? |
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 28-03-2013 21:04
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Yes, otherwise the AI will do it and your riders will perform much worse. |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 28-03-2013 21:05
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GoncaloMC wrote:
You say that I should always use an effort level ? Even in downhills or in flats ?
Always. Especially on the flats; as you can continue to increase your advantage whilst using less energy.
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| GoncaloMC |
Posted on 28-03-2013 21:58
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What "stripe" should disappear first: the green or the blue one ?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 28-03-2013 22:32
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You should aim to have them run out at the same time
Green is your riders energy, Blue the remaining race distance
the higher the effort the quicker both will disappear, but you want them to fully disappear at the same time.
You will use more Green going uphill and into the wind. You will use less downhill and with the wind behind you.
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| GoncaloMC |
Posted on 28-03-2013 22:46
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Thank you very much ! You were very useful !  |
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 29-03-2013 01:49
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GoncaloMC wrote:
What "stripe" should disappear first: the green or the blue one ?
Blue, but just barely. If you run out of energy first you can lose several seconds very very quickly. I always aim to just barely be able to see some green bar at the end.
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