Aswell as playing PCM i am also a big fan of football manager. To keep my self interested for longer i like to create teams/cyclists/competitions ect..
In football manager the editor is all set out very well and it's simply a case of making any changes you want to make and saving the database and then you go into the game and load it up. Why is it so much more complicated for PCM? I understand that it's a much smaller game and they probably have a smaller budget and less people working on the game ect.. but the editor that comes with the game is so simple and so boring. Yes, you can create your own rider and team and simply save it and load the game and play it, but then the stage editor is unbelievably complicated. Yes, once you know how to use it it's fairly easy but then it's the same with putting the stage into the game. You have to download these external editors and then follow loads of instructions and it just drives me crazy. I've successively got one stage into the game (which was done for me) and i can't for the life of me work out why i can't create my tour.
Also with creating a kit, i can't for the life of me work out why my kit doesn't appear in the game.
I don't mean for this to appear as a rant because it's not. I just really think a bit of work should be done to make the game editor more in depth and much more simplified. I don't want to spend my time having to name files a specific thing and then put it in a specific folder and name other things the same thing just to get it into the game. I was a database editor where you load the database. You can click 'create a kid' and you can create a kit and make chose a team to wear the kit and to save the database and then load the game up and the database and it's all done, no messing with specific file names and placing in the folder, the only thing i should have to do is create the kit, and chose which team i want to use it
Again, i don't mean for this to come off as a rant and maybe someone will have a great explanation on why this can't happen but anyone who has used football manager editor and pcm editor will see the difference in how complicated they are to use
in short, to answer your question, YES the editors we all use for PCM could be light years more simple but its not really guys like lachis fault. they are working within the confines of the game and it takes alittle finesse to "trick" the game into accepting your edits. if the actual makers of PCM gave a hoot about their customers we would see a very simple, easy to use editor as a cycling sim is about 100x simpler than a football sim. personally i wouldnt expect to see anything different from this community here as lots of us use the editors and dont mind the extra effort to make it all work. so to convince a guy like lachi to spend more weeks of his/her life to making the editor alittle more user friendly is a big ask but who knows haha!
i personally find the editing logic of the game super annoying and absurd. i also noticed that depending on your download sometimes an editor just wont work. my copy of PCM 2011 was 100% un-editable. no matter what i did no saved changes EVER took place with the myriad of editors i tried. same process for 2012 but my game edits just fine. its weird haha.
top 10 of all time in no particular order, not including the cannibal cause hes automatically #1:
-Gemininani -Nencini -Anquetil -Coppi
-Kelly -Hinault -Zabel -Bettini -Rebellin -Magni
..and honorable mention to Tom Simpson whos career was cut short.
Top 5 noobs most likely to tear it up this season:
-Phinney -Moser -TJ -Guardini -DURBO!
Thanks for the reply. I just hope that some effort does go into making the editor.
Also just to make it clear i am in no way having a go at the people who have made these editors and made these changes possible (as complicated as they are) but i would like to think that Cyanide should do a propper, quick, easy to use one
DannySymons wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I just hope that some effort does go into making the editor.
assuming cyanide puts any effort into this game is dangerous haha, i highly doubt they care much about the editor. it would take all of a day for a developing house to code an in-game editor that simply worked "point. click. save"
its blindingly easy to code, but cyanide wont do it i promise. until another company provides them with a little competition in the market place we will play whatever crap they decide to make.
top 10 of all time in no particular order, not including the cannibal cause hes automatically #1:
-Gemininani -Nencini -Anquetil -Coppi
-Kelly -Hinault -Zabel -Bettini -Rebellin -Magni
..and honorable mention to Tom Simpson whos career was cut short.
Top 5 noobs most likely to tear it up this season:
-Phinney -Moser -TJ -Guardini -DURBO!
