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How to win from a breakaway
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 24-03-2013 21:50
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Hi guys.The subject of this thread is obvious, how the hell can I win from a breakaway ?
In fact, to be honest with you my problem is not that I can't win a breakaway because my rider is too tired near the finish line or something like that, my problem is that I can't even get to the finish line in a breakaway, because the Peleton always catches me.
I usually get a big lead to the Peleton at the start of the race and then it drops and I can't do nothing about it.I tried to start relaying myself or to attack from the breakaway when the Peleton gets to close but nothing has worked.Do you have any good advices please ?
Thanks.
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 21:52
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honestly, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:00
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Well, for me it never works and trust me, i tried it many times.
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| TTspecialist |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:01
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Depends on how good riders in breakaway are and how tired peloton is,at last week of Tour de France i attacked with Kiserlovski almost every day to take Polka - Dot and almost every day he finished with about 5-6 minutes in front of main stage-racers. System is a bit weird ,but that's it. It really depends on strenght and tireness of peloton riders,also,if you're trying to attack on flat stage here Cav and Greipel have to sprint,forget it,teams will get you fastly (as in real life).
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:06
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So you are telling me that you just sit in the breakaway and do nothing and you still win ? Because this isn't working for me.I'm playing on Hard difficulty BTW.
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:08
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You should attack with a rider no one would think as Dangerous, but is still mildly ok EX: Dries Deveyens
in a stage race, attacking with a rider in the top 50 is out of the question.
Oh ad if a good rider is in the break with you, just drop back to the pack |
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| TTspecialist |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:10
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RedDisciple wrote:
So you are telling me that you just sit in the breakaway and do nothing and you still win ? Because this isn't working for me.I'm playing on Hard difficulty BTW.
I was played on Expert,aaaaand Kiserlovski was 25th at overall with 15 minutes and he still finished about 5-6 minute in front of others,its just about if group let you go and the moment when you attack first group,it's all about tactic 
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:13
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TTspecialist wrote:
RedDisciple wrote:
So you are telling me that you just sit in the breakaway and do nothing and you still win ? Because this isn't working for me.I'm playing on Hard difficulty BTW.
I was played on Expert,aaaaand Kiserlovski was 25th at overall with 15 minutes and he still finished about 5-6 minute in front of others,its just about if group let you go and the moment when you attack first group,it's all about tactic
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| TTspecialist |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:15
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I said EXPERT, not sure if you're blind or some forum problems?
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:18
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why are you such an idiot are you on your period you just get on PCMdaily and start trolling, no one likes some one like you so cut it out |
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:18
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I always send riders in breakaways that aren't dangerous for anything, like Miyazawa, Morkov, Petrov etc. (I'm playing a career with Saxo) so this shouldn't be a problem.
// Calm down guys, you can argue on your PM later.
Edited by RedDisciple on 24-03-2013 22:18
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:21
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RedDisciple wrote:
I always send riders in breakaways that aren't dangerous for anything, like Miyazawa, Morkov, Petrov etc. (I'm playing a career with Saxo) so this shouldn't be a problem.
// Calm down guys, you can argue on your PM later.
are these on tours or on a monument?
oh and on the first couple days of a tour no one'll win out of a break |
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| TTspecialist |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:21
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If there is a flat stage,you should attack on some hills (there are always some,except Champs-Elysees),some mountains or something,because,you will get advantage fastly there.Also,you have to rest your rider (not to put him in relay for 30-40 kilometers before attack) and there should not be problem. For a hilly stage,same.
For a mountain stage,if your rider is a sprinter,i think you should start about 20 kms before 2nd mountain or something (except Mont Ventoux,there is only 1 there) so he can make 1-2 minutes of advantage and try to keep it at mountain,if he is good climber,you should react at first second as mountain starts. That always works for me,even on Expert (well,i fail sometimes on it),but always on hard .
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:24
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maxime86 wrote:
are these on tours or on a monument?
oh and on the first couple days of a tour no one'll win out of a break
No, I just started my season so I tried in almost every stage from the early races, like Tour Down Under, Vuelta a Mallorca, Tour of Oman, Tour Mediterraneen, Tour de San Luis etc.
Now I'm playing Paris-Nice and I also tried in the first 2 stages but no succes.
Edited by RedDisciple on 24-03-2013 22:25
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:26
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breaks don't usually make it at the begginning of tours or on really flat stages, in races of more then 7 days usually there will be at least one break that goes all the way, so you have to get lucky, oh and also that rider should have a good fitness |
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| TTspecialist |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:27
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As on forum,same in game,i'm always "asshole" (not working in relays) so i can save my energy for solo attack,that must work,dont expect to win from a breakaway on first or second stage,they are reserved for sprinters and their teams will do everything to put their guy at the finish line as 1st.
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:29
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TTspecialist wrote:
As on forum,same in game,i'm always "asshole" (not working in relays) so i can save my energy for solo attack,that must work,dont expect to win from a breakaway on first or second stage,they are reserved for sprinters and their teams will do everything to put their guy at the finish line as 1st.
this works everytime for me (no kidding) |
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| kimiopn |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:30
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I won the 15th stage on Tour on my 2006 story from a break with K. Kroon. He was far on GC but Evans (19th, 5'04) was on the break. I just didn't cooperated and when the peloton started to gain time i attacked and then it's much like a time trial, controlling the pace with the energy you got.
Check it here: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_679642
Edited by kimiopn on 24-03-2013 22:34
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:32
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you should check out any story, there is usually a break that wins
edit: Zabel'ed
Edited by maxime86 on 24-03-2013 22:33
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| Flair |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:37
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Yeah, long breaks rarely work on flat stages because too many teams want to work for the stage win.
Its most likely to work when your in a stage race, none of the break are anywhere near the GC and you get a few back to back mountain/hill stages.
Theres nothing you can really do to make it work though. Sometimes the pack will let a break go and sometimes they don't. You can't influence whether other teams want to win the stage or not, so you just have to go for it and hope.
Thats why we love the guys that break all the time. Its a almost hopeless ambition because it hardly ever works, but is needed for some sort of order to exist in the race. They are heros! |
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