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Curious Question about training and exp. levels
shadow80
I'm curious if anyone has ever asked or dealt with this question before regarding the mechanics of training young riders. Does it make a difference how fast you build up a rider's experience levels? For example, I've made one ride move from Level 2 to Level 4 in half a season. But a part of me wonders if it'd be wiser to move slower from each level, like perhaps one level a year or something to maximize the training benefits of the trainers?

Does anyone know the answer to this question? The reason why this question was posed is because I had an old CSC game scrapped due to too many riders getting too fatigued by June and being absolutely utterly useless by midseason. However I noticed that I promoted Andy Schleck from level 3 to level 4 right at the end of the Tour of Romandie, the last race before the Giro and his MTN stat went up to 83 and TT stat was at 74. Second time around, after promotion (before mtn and tt training) his MTN stat was 80 and TT stat was 70 flat. The second time I think I promoted him right around the hilly classics or maybe a couple weeks before the hilly classics. Does the pace at which you promote riders contribute to the strength of their stat increases at each promotion?
 
issoisso
I believe that's the random effect. when a rider "explodes", there's a randomness involved as to how much he will rise. he can rise 2 points in MO and 3 in TT....or 4-1....or 1-2...or many other combinations. which I believe are entirely random
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Darkphoenix
hmmm good to hear I signed Taylor Phinney in my career in PCM Spain and was worried I overworked him last season but we will see Grin
 
rodda
Darkphoenix wrote:
hmmm good to hear I signed Taylor Phinney in my career in PCM Spain and was worried I overworked him last season but we will see Grin


i think that overworking young riders lowers their potential or something like that, there is a recommended amount of days they should race in a thread somewhere on here i'll look for it

edit: here https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthr...rowstart=0
Edited by rodda on 02-12-2007 09:29
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I think it does have some effect and that it might be better to build riders slowly but I'm not sure. There is alot of randomness in it though as isso said.Wink
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Panaflex
rodda wrote:
i think that overworking young riders lowers their potential or something like that, there is a recommended amount of days they should race in a thread somewhere on here i'll look for it

edit: here https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthr...rowstart=0


I've already said it in the other thread - I don't buy that. I've played so many seasons and I've never witnessed any negative effects of letting promising riders ride 50 and more (even A LOT more) races. I know it's mentioned in the manual - but I just don't buy it.

And no, I don't believe it makes ANY difference whatsoever if you let your young rider jump from 1-4 in 2 weeks or 3 years, technically spoken.
Even though I was thinking that maybe you should give riders like Ulissi or Phinney a few years otherwise they'll have an average of 69-70 if you bring them to level 4 at the age of 16. I guess it'd be wise to leave the last 2 level jumps for the second or third season at least.
Edited by Panaflex on 02-12-2007 15:28
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rodda
Panaflex wrote:
rodda wrote:
i think that overworking young riders lowers their potential or something like that, there is a recommended amount of days they should race in a thread somewhere on here i'll look for it

edit: here https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthr...rowstart=0


I've already said it in the other thread - I don't buy that. I've played so many seasons and I've never witnessed any negative effects of letting promising riders ride 50 and more (even A LOT more) races. I know it's mentioned in the manual - but I just don't buy it.

And no, I don't believe it makes ANY difference whatsoever if you let your young rider jump from 1-4 in 2 weeks or 3 years, technically spoken.
Even though I was thinking that maybe you should give riders like Ulissi or Phinney a few years otherwise they'll have an average of 69-70 if you bring them to level 4 at the age of 16. I guess it'd be wise to leave the last 2 level jumps for the second or third season at least.


i agree with you panaflex, i was just posting the stuff that has been said by others, personally i have raced 100 + race day seasons with the likes of hagen, etc.
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