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Final Pro Tour Ranking 2007
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-10-2007 17:58
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Grand Tour Champion
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Evans wins!
Pro Tour
Individual
1 2 EVANS Cadel (AUS) AUS19770214 Predictor-Lotto 247
2 6 REBELLIN Davide (ITA) ITA19710809 Gerolsteiner 197
3 3 CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto (ESP) ESP19821206 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 191
4 4 VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro (ESP) ESP19800425 Caisse d'Epargne 190
5 5 FREIRE GOMEZ Oscar (ESP) ESP19760215 Rabobank 182
6 7 MENCHOV Denis (RUS) RUS19780125 Rabobank 172
7 15 CUNEGO Damiano (ITA) ITA19810919 Lampre-Fondital 165
8 8 KIRCHEN Kim (LUX) LUX19780703 T-Mobile Team 165
9 12 SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel (ESP) ESP19780205 Euskaltel - Euskadi 159
10 9 KARPETS Vladimir (RUS) RUS19800920 Caisse d'Epargne 145
11 10 BALLAN Alessandro (ITA) ITA19791106 Lampre-Fondital 135
12 11 SASTRE CANDIL Carlos (ESP) ESP19750422 Team CSC 127
13 13 PETACCHI Alessandro (ITA) ITA19740103 Team Milram 120
14 14 LEIPHEIMER Levi (USA) USA19731024 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 118
15 22 SCHLECK Andy (LUX) LUX19850610 Team CSC 111
16 29 RICCO Riccardo (ITA) ITA19830901 Saunier Duval - Prodir 111
17 16 SCHLECK Frank (LUX) LUX19800415 Team CSC 101
18 20 DEKKER Thomas (NED) NED19840906 Rabobank 95
19 17 MOREAU Christophe (FRA) FRA19710412 Ag2r Prevoyance 88
20 18 MCEWEN Robbie (AUS) AUS19720624 Predictor-Lotto 88
21 19 BOONEN Tom (BEL) BEL19801015 Quick Step - Innergetic 87
22 21 BETTINI Paolo (ITA) ITA19740401 Quick Step - Innergetic 82
23 23 O'GRADY Stuart (AUS) AUS19730806 Team CSC 79
24 24 SCHUMACHER Stefan (GER) GER19810721 Gerolsteiner 78
25 25 VOIGT Jens (GER) GER19710917 Team CSC 78
26 26 ZABEL Erik (GER) GER19700707 Team Milram 73
27 27 GESINK Robert (NED) NED19860531 Rabobank 71
28 28 LOPEZ GARCIA David (ESP) ESP19810513 Caisse d'Epargne 71
29 30 BERTAGNOLLI Leonardo (ITA) ITA19780108 Liquigas 70
30 31 HOSTE Leif (BEL) BEL19770717 Predictor-Lotto 70
31 32 HUSHOVD Thor (NOR) NOR19780118 Credit Agricole 70
32 33 KLÖDEN Andreas (GER) GER19750622 Astana 67
33 34 SAVOLDELLI Paolo (ITA) ITA19730507 Astana 66
34 35 EFIMKIN Vladimir (RUS) RUS19811202 Caisse d'Epargne 65
35 36 BENNATI Daniele (ITA) ITA19800924 Lampre-Fondital 65
36 37 COBO ACEBO Juan Jose (ESP) ESP19810211 Saunier Duval - Prodir 64
37 38 DAVIS Allan (AUS) AUS19800727 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 64
38 39 SIMONI Gilberto (ITA) ITA19710825 Saunier Duval - Prodir 62
39 40 BOOGERD Michael (NED) NED19720528 Rabobank 57
40 41 ASTARLOZA CHAURREAU Mikel (ESP) ESP19791117 Euskaltel - Euskadi 56
41 43 VAN SUMMEREN Johan (BEL) BEL19810204 Predictor-Lotto 54
42 42 GUTIERREZ PALACIOS José Ivan (ESP) ESP19781127 Caisse d'Epargne 54
43 44 VALJAVEC Tadej (SLO) SLO19770413 Lampre-Fondital 54
44 45 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar (ESP) ESP19770401 Euskaltel - Euskadi 53
45 46 PELLIZOTTI Franco (ITA) ITA19780115 Liquigas 52
46 47 GUSEV Vladimir (RUS) RUS19820704 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 48
47 48 HAMMOND Roger (GBR) GBR19740130 T-Mobile Team 45
48 49 ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor (ESP) ESP19830302 Euskaltel - Euskadi 45
49 50 POPOVYCH Yaroslav (UKR) UKR19800104 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 45
50 51 MILLAR David (GBR) GBR19770104 Saunier Duval - Prodir 43
51 52 BELTRAN MARTINEZ Manuel (ESP) ESP19710528 Liquigas 43
52 53 VOECKLER Thomas (FRA) FRA19790622 Bouygues Telecom 42
53 54 FLECHA GIANNONI Juan Antonio (ESP) ESP19770917 Rabobank 42
54 55 ROGERS Michael (AUS) AUS19791220 T-Mobile Team 42
55 56 SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon (ESP) ESP19831124 Caisse d'Epargne 42
56 57 BURGHARDT Marcus (GER) GER19830630 T-Mobile Team 41
57 58 LARSSON Gustav (SWE) SWE19800920 Unibet.com 41
58 59 PIEPOLI Leonardo (ITA) ITA19710929 Saunier Duval - Prodir 41
59 60 DE JONGH Steven (NED) NED19731125 Quick Step - Innergetic 40
60 61 NAPOLITANO Danilo (ITA) ITA19810131 Lampre-Fondital 40
61 62 DEVOLDER Stijn (BEL) BEL19790829 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 39
62 64 HORNER Christopher (USA) USA19711023 Predictor-Lotto 39
63 63 ZABRISKIE David (USA) USA19790112 Team CSC 38
64 65 PAOLINI Luca (ITA) ITA19770117 Liquigas 36
65 66 POZZATO Filippo (ITA) ITA19810910 Liquigas 36
66 67 BARREDO LLAMAZALES Carlos (ESP) ESP19810605 Quick Step - Innergetic 36
67 68 CIOLEK Gerald (GER) GER19860919 T-Mobile Team 34
68 69 BRUSEGHIN Marzio (ITA) ITA19740615 Lampre-Fondital 34
69 70 CHICCHI Francesco (ITA) ITA19801127 Liquigas 32
70 71 CANCELLARA Fabian (SUI) SUI19810318 Team CSC 32
71 72 PETITO Roberto (ITA) ITA19710201 Liquigas 31
72 73 MONFORT Maxime (BEL) BEL19830114 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 31
73 74 ARROYO DURAN David (ESP) ESP19800107 Caisse d'Epargne 31
74 75 PEREIRO SIO Oscar (ESP) ESP19770803 Caisse d'Epargne 31
75 76 GARATE Juan Manuel (ESP) ESP19760424 Quick Step - Innergetic 30
76 79 WEGMANN Fabian (GER) GER19800620 Gerolsteiner 30
77 80 CARRARA Matteo (ITA) ITA19790325 Unibet.com 30
78 77 LEUKEMANS Björn (BEL) BEL19770701 Predictor-Lotto 30
79 78 KROON Karsten (NED) NED19760129 Team CSC 30
80 81 KREUZIGER Roman (CZE) CZE19860506 Liquigas 30
81 82 BRAJKOVIC Janez (SLO) SLO19831218 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 29
82 83 VAITKUS Tomas (LTU) LTU19820204 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 29
83 84 LASTRAS GARCIA Pablo (ESP) ESP19760120 Caisse d'Epargne 23
84 85 VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco José (ESP) ESP19820506 Saunier Duval - Prodir 22
85 86 SÖRENSEN Chris (DEN) DEN19840905 Team CSC 22
86 87 GADRET John (FRA) FRA19790422 Ag2r Prevoyance 20
87 88 MAYO DIEZ Iban (ESP) ESP19770819 Saunier Duval - Prodir 19
88 89 NOCENTINI Rinaldo (ITA) ITA19770925 Ag2r Prevoyance 18
89 90 NUYENS Nick (BEL) BEL19800505 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 18
90 91 ROSSELER Sébastien (BEL) BEL19810715 Quick Step - Innergetic 18
91 92 ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin (ESP) ESP19850608 Caisse d'Epargne 16
92 93 FÖRSTER Robert (GER) GER19780127 Gerolsteiner 16
93 94 MENGIN Christophe (FRA) FRA19680903 Française Des Jeux 15
94 95 TANKINK Bram (NED) NED19781203 Quick Step - Innergetic 15
95 96 TEN DAM Laurens (NED) NED19801113 Unibet.com 15
96 97 STEEGMANS Gert (BEL) BEL19800930 Quick Step - Innergetic 15
97 99 CASAR Sandy (FRA) FRA19790202 Française Des Jeux 15
98 98 VASSEUR Cédric (FRA) FRA19700818 Quick Step - Innergetic 15
99 100 DUQUE Leonardo (COL) COL19800410 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 14
100 101 PARRA PINTO Ivan Ramiro (COL) COL19751014 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 13
101 102 USOV Alexandre (BLR) BLR19770827 Ag2r Prevoyance 12
102 103 GOUBERT Stéphane (FRA) FRA19700313 Ag2r Prevoyance 12
103 104 SPRICK Matthieu (FRA) FRA19810929 Bouygues Telecom 11
104 150 VISCONTI Giovanni (ITA) ITA19830113 Quick Step - Innergetic 11
105 105 GOSS Matthew Harley (AUS) AUS19861105 Team CSC 11
106 106 CAVENDISH Mark (GBR) GBR19850521 T-Mobile Team 11
107 107 JULICH Bobby (USA) USA19711118 Team CSC 10
108 111 LJUNGQVIST Marcus (SWE) SWE19741026 Team CSC 10
109 114 BLAUDZUN Michael (DEN) DEN19730430 Team CSC 10
110 113 ROBERTS Luke (AUS) AUS19770125 Team CSC 10
111 110 MURAVYEV Dmitriy (KAZ) KAZ19791102 Astana 10
112 109 FRANZOI Enrico (ITA) ITA19820808 Lampre-Fondital 10
113 108 LANDALUZE INTXAURRAGA Inigo (ESP) ESP19770509 Euskaltel - Euskadi 10
114 112 VANDEVELDE Christian (USA) USA19760522 Team CSC 10
115 116 HINCAPIE George (USA) USA19730629 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 10
116 115 GERDEMANN Linus (GER) GER19820916 T-Mobile Team 10
117 117 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin (ESP) ESP19790312 Caisse d'Epargne 9
118 118 VILA ERRANDONEA Patxi Javier (ESP) ESP19751011 Lampre-Fondital 9
119 119 BODROGI Laszlo (HUN) HUN19761211 Credit Agricole 9
120 120 URAN Rigoberto (COL) COL19870126 Unibet.com 8
121 129 GRIVKO Andriy (UKR) UKR19830807 Team Milram 8
122 122 NIBALI Vincenzo (ITA) ITA19841114 Liquigas 8
123 121 PINOTTI Marco (ITA) ITA19760225 T-Mobile Team 8
124 124 TERPSTRA Niki (NED) NED19840518 Team Milram 8
125 134 DYUDYA Volodymyr (UKR) UKR19830106 Team Milram 8
126 131 CORTINOVIS Alessandro (ITA) ITA19771011 Team Milram 8
127 128 KNEES Christian (GER) GER19810305 Team Milram 8
128 135 LANCASTER Brett (AUS) AUS19791115 Team Milram 8
129 133 GRABSCH Bert (GER) GER19750619 T-Mobile Team 8
130 130 SIEBERG Marcel (GER) GER19820430 Team Milram 8
131 126 FOTHEN Markus (GER) GER19810909 Gerolsteiner 8
132 125 MCCARTNEY Jason (USA) USA19730903 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 8
133 123 ARVESEN Kurt-Asle (NOR) NOR19750209 Team CSC 8
134 132 KLIER Andreas (GER) GER19760115 T-Mobile Team 8
135 127 MÃœLLER Martin (GER) GER19740405 Team Milram 8
136 136 VAN HEESWIJK Max (NED) NED19730302 Rabobank 7
137 147 MARTINEZ DE ESTEBAN Egoi (ESP) ESP19780515 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 7
138 137 VAN AVERMAET Greg (BEL) BEL19850517 Predictor-Lotto 7
139 138 COOKE Baden (AUS) AUS19781012 Unibet.com 7
140 139 SZMYD Sylvester (POL) POL19780302 Lampre-Fondital 7
141 140 CHAVANEL Sylvain (FRA) FRA19790630 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 7
142 144 KOLOBNEV Alexandr (RUS) RUS19810504 Team CSC 7
143 141 ZAUGG Oliver (SUI) SUI19810509 Gerolsteiner 7
144 148 PAULINHO Sergio Miguel Moreira (POR) POR19800326 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 7
145 143 CUMMINGS Steven (GBR) GBR19810319 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 7
146 149 NOVAL GONZALEZ Benjamin (ESP) ESP19790123 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 7
147 145 FERNANDEZ Koldo (ESP) ESP19810913 Euskaltel - Euskadi 7
148 142 WEYLANDT Wouter (BEL) BEL19840927 Quick Step - Innergetic 7
149 146 LI Fuyu (CHN) CHN19780509 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 7
150 158 PEREZ SANCHEZ Francisco (ESP) ESP19780722 Caisse d'Epargne 6
151 151 FISCHER Murilo Antonio (BRA) BRA19790616 Liquigas 6
152 155 KUSCHYNSKI Aleksandr (BLR) BLR19791027 Liquigas 6
153 156 DA DALTO Mauro (ITA) ITA19810408 Liquigas 6
154 152 WILLEMS Frederik (BEL) BEL19790908 Liquigas 6
155 157 BACKSTEDT Magnus (SWE) SWE19750130 Liquigas 6
156 153 QUINZIATO Manuel (ITA) ITA19791030 Liquigas 6
157 154 BONO Matteo (ITA) ITA19831111 Lampre-Fondital 6
158 159 SCOGNAMIGLIO Carlo (ITA) ITA19830531 Team Milram 5
159 161 FLORENCIO CABRE Xavier (ESP) ESP19791226 Bouygues Telecom 5
160 160 REYNES MIMO Vicente (ESP) ESP19810730 Caisse d'Epargne 5
161 162 VAN IMPE Kevin (BEL) BEL19810419 Quick Step - Innergetic 5
162 164 WYNANTS Maarten (BEL) BEL19820513 Quick Step - Innergetic 5
163 163 CRETSKENS Wilfried (BEL) BEL19760710 Quick Step - Innergetic 5
164 166 GRABOVSKYY Dmytro (UKR) UKR19850930 Quick Step - Innergetic 5
165 168 MERCKX Axel (BEL) BEL19720808 T-Mobile Team 5
166 165 KERN Christophe (FRA) FRA19810118 Credit Agricole 5
167 167 MANGEL Laurent (FRA) FRA19810522 Ag2r Prevoyance 5
168 169 BROWN Graeme (AUS) AUS19790409 Rabobank 5
169 174 GOMEZ MARCHANTE José Angel (ESP) ESP19800530 Saunier Duval - Prodir 4
170 170 DUPONT Hubert (FRA) FRA19801113 Ag2r Prevoyance 4
171 171 ERVITI Imanol (ESP) ESP19831115 Caisse d'Epargne 4
172 175 LÖVKVIST Thomas (SWE) SWE19840404 Française Des Jeux 4
173 177 MARKOV Alexei (RUS) RUS19790526 Caisse d'Epargne 4
174 178 BRARD Florent (FRA) FRA19760207 Caisse d'Epargne 4
175 176 PORTAL Nicolas (FRA) FRA19790423 Caisse d'Epargne 4
176 173 STAMSNIJDER Tom (NED) NED19850515 Gerolsteiner 4
177 172 RENSHAW Mark (AUS) AUS19821022 Credit Agricole 4
178 180 MORI Manuele (ITA) ITA19800809 Saunier Duval - Prodir 3
179 181 WROLICH Peter (AUT) AUT19740530 Gerolsteiner 3
180 179 CLERC Aurélien (SUI) SUI19790826 Bouygues Telecom 3
181 182 GIL PEREZ Koldo (ESP) ESP19780116 Saunier Duval - Prodir 3
182 199 COLOM MAS Antonio (ESP) ESP19780511 Astana 3
183 188 KOPP David (GER) GER19790105 Gerolsteiner 3
184 185 ELMIGER Martin (SUI) SUI19780923 Ag2r Prevoyance 3
185 183 GASPAROTTO Enrico (ITA) ITA19820322 Liquigas 3
186 184 PAGLIARINI MENDONCA Luciano André (BRA) BRA19780418 Saunier Duval - Prodir 3
187 198 IGLINSKY Maxim (KAZ) KAZ19810418 Astana 3
188 193 ALBASINI Michael (SUI) SUI19801220 Liquigas 3
189 187 DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David (ESP) ESP19810504 Saunier Duval - Prodir 3
190 196 ROCHE Nicolas (IRL) IRL19840703 Credit Agricole 3
191 197 EDALEINE Christophe (FRA) FRA19791101 Credit Agricole 3
192 190 KAGGESTAD Mads (NOR) NOR19770222 Credit Agricole 3
193 194 LEFEVRE Laurent (FRA) FRA19760702 Bouygues Telecom 3
194 189 WIGGINS Bradley (GBR) GBR19800428 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 3
195 192 ELIJZEN Michiel (NED) NED19820831 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 3
196 195 HAUSSLER Heinrich (GER) GER19840225 Gerolsteiner 3
197 200 PRONI Alessandro (ITA) ITA19821228 Quick Step - Innergetic 3
198 186 ENGOULVENT Jimmy (FRA) FRA19791207 Credit Agricole 3
199 191 NAZON Jean-Patrick (FRA) FRA19770118 Ag2r Prevoyance 3
200 202 VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen (BEL) BEL19830201 Predictor-Lotto 2
201 201 BALDATO Fabio (ITA) ITA19680613 Lampre-Fondital 2
202 206 BOTCHAROV Alexandre (RUS) RUS19750226 Credit Agricole 2
203 205 BRESCHEL Matti (DEN) DEN19840831 Team CSC 2
204 220 KEMPS Aaron (AUS) AUS19830910 Astana 2
205 210 BEPPU Fumiyuki (JPN) JPN19830410 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 2
206 203 TURPIN Ludovic (FRA) FRA19750322 Ag2r Prevoyance 2
207 222 ZABALLA GUTIERREZ Constantino (ESP) ESP19780515 Caisse d'Epargne 2
208 209 MARZANO Marco (ITA) ITA19800610 Lampre-Fondital 2
209 207 HORRACH RIPPOLL Joan (ESP) ESP19740327 Caisse d'Epargne 2
210 208 CLEMENT Stef (NED) NED19820924 Bouygues Telecom 2
211 211 DEVENYNS Dries (BEL) BEL19830722 Predictor-Lotto 2
212 216 ROESEMS Bert (BEL) BEL19721014 Predictor-Lotto 2
213 218 STEELS Tom (BEL) BEL19710902 Predictor-Lotto 2
214 204 ROY Jérémy (FRA) FRA19830622 Française Des Jeux 2
215 217 INGELS Nick (BEL) BEL19840902 Predictor-Lotto 2
216 212 LORENZETTO Mirco (ITA) ITA19810713 Team Milram 2
217 213 KAISEN Olivier (BEL) BEL19830430 Predictor-Lotto 2
218 219 CORNU Dominique (BEL) BEL19851010 Predictor-Lotto 2
219 214 SIEDLER Sebastian (GER) GER19780118 Team Milram 2
220 221 BAZAYEV Assan (KAZ) KAZ19810222 Astana 2
221 215 FURLAN Angelo (ITA) ITA19770621 Credit Agricole 2
222 223 RODRIGUEZ Fred (USA) USA19730903 Predictor-Lotto 2
223 224 GERARD Arnaud (FRA) FRA19841006 Française Des Jeux 1
224 236 PINEAU Jérôme (FRA) FRA19800102 Bouygues Telecom 1
225 241 JOLY Sébastien (FRA) FRA19790625 Française Des Jeux 1
226 235 FEDRIGO Pierrick (FRA) FRA19781130 Bouygues Telecom 1
227 226 HADDOU Saïd (FRA) FRA19821123 Bouygues Telecom 1
228 240 DI GREGORIO Rémy (FRA) FRA19850731 Française Des Jeux 1
229 234 ARRIETA LUJAMBIO José Luis (ESP) ESP19710615 Ag2r Prevoyance 1
230 225 AERTS Mario (BEL) BEL19741231 Predictor-Lotto 1
231 233 CAMANO ORTUZAR Iker (ESP) ESP19790314 Saunier Duval - Prodir 1
232 227 KRAUSS Sven (GER) GER19830106 Gerolsteiner 1
233 228 DUMOULIN Samuel (FRA) FRA19800820 Ag2r Prevoyance 1
234 231 HAYMAN Mathew (AUS) AUS19780420 Rabobank 1
235 232 ROUSSEAU Nicolas (FRA) FRA19830316 Ag2r Prevoyance 1
236 237 LUND Anders (DEN) DEN19850214 Team CSC 1
237 230 KRIVTSOV Yuriy (UKR) UKR19790207 Ag2r Prevoyance 1
238 229 BOSSONI Paolo (ITA) ITA19760702 Lampre-Fondital 1
239 239 DESSEL Cyril (FRA) FRA19741129 Ag2r Prevoyance 1
240 238 MCGEE Bradley (AUS) AUS19760224 Française Des Jeux 1
Teams
1 1 CSC Team CSC DEN 392
2 2 LIQ Liquigas ITA 354
3 3 GCE Caisse d'Epargne ESP 337
4 4 A2R Ag2r Prevoyance FRA 324
5 5 QSI Quick Step - Innergetic BEL 310
6 7 SDV Saunier Duval - Prodir ESP 306
7 6 DSC Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team USA 300
8 8 RAB Rabobank NED 300
9 9 PRL Predictor-Lotto BEL 293
10 10 LAM Lampre-Fondital ITA 258
11 13 EUS Euskaltel - Euskadi ESP 227
12 11 AST Astana SUI 218
13 12 TMO T-Mobile Team GER 212
14 14 GST Gerolsteiner GER 207
15 15 C.A Credit Agricole FRA 182
16 16 BTL Bouygues Telecom FRA 178
17 17 COF Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone FRA 177
18 18 MRM Team Milram ITA 148
19 19 FDJ Française Des Jeux FRA 137
20 20 UNI Unibet.com SWE 127
Nations
1 1 ESP Spain 849
2 2 ITA Italy 728
3 3 AUS Australia 520
4 4 RUS Russian Federation 437
5 5 LUX Luxembourg 377
6 6 GER Germany 337
7 7 NED Netherlands 293
8 8 BEL Belgium 281
9 9 USA United States of America 215
10 10 FRA France 180
11 11 GBR Great Britain 109
12 12 SLO Slovenia 83
13 13 NOR Norway 81
14 14 UKR Ukraine 67
15 15 SWE Sweden 61
16 16 SUI Switzerland 48
17 17 DEN Denmark 35
18 18 COL Colombia 35
19 19 CZE Czech Republic 30
20 20 LTU Lithuania 29
21 21 BLR Belarus 18
22 22 KAZ Kazakhstan 15
23 23 HUN Hungary 9
24 24 BRA Brazil 9
25 25 POL Poland 7
26 27 POR Portugal 7
27 26 CHN People's Republic of China 7
28 28 AUT Austria 3
29 29 IRL Ireland 3
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| mrlol |
Posted on 20-10-2007 18:05
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evans wins clearly but not completly fair in my opinion cus I think di luca should have won it. he was not caugth on dope as far as I know so... |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 20-10-2007 23:44
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Even if Di Luca hadnt of been disqualified after his suspension, Evans would have won by 5 points.
Big well done to Luxembourg for finishing 5th in the Nations standings, despite having just 3 decent riders!
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 20-10-2007 23:48
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Big well done to Luxembourg for finishing 5th in the Nations standings, despite having just 3 decent riders!
3 decent riders, Benoit Joachim and a bunch of sheep. So yeah well done.
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Posted on 21-10-2007 00:59
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when is the announcment for who is in the Pro TOur in 2008! how does the whole promotion relegation work! especially now that 3 teams are disbanding! |
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Posted on 21-10-2007 01:07
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3 Teams?
Theres Discovery Channel and Unibet but there isnt a 3rd is there?
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| niconico |
Posted on 21-10-2007 01:08
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CSC baby!! B)
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| rodda |
Posted on 21-10-2007 01:14
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cadel by a long way 
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-10-2007 01:37
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Team ranking based on ind. points
1 Caisse d'Epargne 708
2 Team CSC 697
3 Rabobank 632
4 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 618
5 Predictor-Lotto 552
6 Lampre-Fondital 530
7 Liquigas 380
8 Quick Step - Innergetic 379
9 Saunier Duval - Prodir 379
10 T-Mobile Team 377
11 Gerolsteiner 350
12 Euskaltel - Euskadi 330
13 Team Milram 266
14 Ag2r Prevoyance 172
15 Astana 153
16 Credit Agricole 104
17 Unibet.com 101
18 Cofidis, le Credit Par Telephone 89
19 Bouygues Telecom 69
20 Française Des Jeux 40
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-10-2007 01:43
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Ofcorse Rabo is 3rd. but we looking best overall team..who has been most stabile thrue the year. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-10-2007 01:46
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Ofcorse Rabo is 3rd. but we looking best overall team..who has been most stabile thrue the year. No, you don't understand.
A lot of teams, like Rabo, only work for 1 leader each race. the Pro Tour ranking, is based on a system were the best 3 riders in 1 race of a team make up the ranking of the day.
A team that finishes 7th, 9th and 15th earns more points then a team that finishes 1st, 30th and 35th in the same stage. While it could be that the teammates did all the hard work for the man that finished 1st. So, the team worked very hard, delivered the winner, but yet they get less points then a team that did nothing and had their best man at place 7.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-10-2007 02:16
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Ruben wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Ofcorse Rabo is 3rd. but we looking best overall team..who has been most stabile thrue the year. No, you don't understand.
A lot of teams, like Rabo, only work for 1 leader each race. the Pro Tour ranking, is based on a system were the best 3 riders in 1 race of a team make up the ranking of the day.
A team that finishes 7th, 9th and 15th earns more points then a team that finishes 1st, 30th and 35th in the same stage. While it could be that the teammates did all the hard work for the man that finished 1st. So, the team worked very hard, delivered the winner, but yet they get less points then a team that did nothing and had their best man at place 7.
Do you get it? The system is wrong
That is exactly what I had in mind.. if rider comes 1st. then he get best individual points..when other team riders cross the line in 7th..9th..15th. Wich is best team? Ofcorse 2nd, option..teams wich can keep more then one rider close to top. This is about best team. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-10-2007 02:42
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No, that's illogical. Because if a team finishes 7th, 9th and 11th, they are all individualists and in fact are not working as a team
If a whole team works for 1 leader, then they are a team.
So, you just got owned by saying that. I hoped you would say that so I could come with this reply B)
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-10-2007 02:54
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Ruben wrote:
No, that's illogical. Because if a team finishes 7th, 9th and 11th, they are all individualists and in fact are not working as a team
If a whole team works for 1 leader, then they are a team.
So, you just got owned by saying that. I hoped you would say that so I could come with this reply B)
B) sry, you have to reply again.. You has your point..best team is wich can work for he's leader high has possible. Most of teams has leader even French teams ...
If team work for one man..and this one win's..that means they are worked for one man..who gets max individual points..meaning that he is best individual rider if we look at history book..there is no mark of team who helped him so high..if other team get 3 of he's rider inside let say top 15..for me they are best team. For you opinion..they are broken team wich can't work good enough for one man. I think we cant settle this argument tonight..and should wait third opinion tomorrow. |
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Posted on 21-10-2007 03:10
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Ofcourse not, in many mountain stages, the workers let go after their leader starts the attack, to save energy for the next day.
It's not like the US (Epo)stal days anymore were all doped helpers could finish top 15  |
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Posted on 21-10-2007 10:21
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Well IMO Ruben's right, if a team has 3 riders in the top 15, that means there are 3 very good riders in the same shirt. Look at this year'S TDF. If Rasmussen would have finished it, he would have pretty surely won it, because all Rabobank riders went flat out for him, Boogerd, MENCHOV, Dekker, etc. And they weren't in the top 15. Disco had 3 in the top 10, but they had 2 or 3 leaders, who didn't cooperate, so they would have missed the TEAM's goal, to win TDF. They were lucky with the Rasmussen case. And of course I would be happier if Caisse wins the Team Rankings in the PT
And I don't think that the Schleck brothers are only "decent" riders
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Posted on 21-10-2007 10:42
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Wooo! EVANS!!!!
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Posted on 21-10-2007 10:54
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Now US Postal was a doped team??? You really dont know what you say. US Postal was the best team i've ever seen in this sport. And in the Bruynnel "era" the only rider that was found doped it was Heras.
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| Alejandro_Valverde |
Posted on 21-10-2007 11:26
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jolly_antunes wrote:
Now US Postal was a doped team??? You really dont know what you say. US Postal was the best team i've ever seen in this sport. And in the Bruynnel "era" the only rider that was found doped it was Heras.
Don't start this debate again It has no sense. You can't convince each other.
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Alejandro_Valverde wrote:
jolly_antunes wrote:
Now US Postal was a doped team??? You really dont know what you say. US Postal was the best team i've ever seen in this sport. And in the Bruynnel "era" the only rider that was found doped it was Heras.
Don't start this debate again It has no sense. You can't convince each other.
yes please 
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