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| mdd31 |
Posted on 17-10-2007 21:11
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I have been playing PCM07 for about 1 week and I am completely new to the series but I already love it! I am ready to start a career mode and am using the PCM Spain DB.
Here are some questions:
1) Why do all of the riders for Team Discovery have contracts that expire in 1 year? Will the team disband at the end of the first season?
2) To follow up Q#1, how do you resign your riders if you are already over budget for team contracts? I would think that if you are resigning for 2008 (and it is 2007) then your current contracts would not count against you but this does not seem to be the case.
3) I understand how to assign training % to riders to improve fitness but what about picking an item for them to train? Should I leave whatever option the computer defaults? So if the computer selects sprint training then should I just stick with that?
4) Can you ever change major sponsors in the game or just your secondary ones and can your team go bankrupt and be disbanded?
5) What is the optimal staff setup for a Pro Level team with a strong budget?
6) Should you buy all of the bike gear or just stick with one brand? All brands seem to have the same quality level (at least in PCM Spain).
7) How do you use the training camps? By this I mean do you always take all of your riders? Also should you use each of the camp types if possible? Should you use them all season or just in the early stages and do they reduce your rider's fitness by making them tired? Can you send half of your team to a camp while the other half of your team is at a race?
8) All of my team's racer Leaders say they do not want to race in January so what should I do at my January races? If I use someone who is just a "teammate" or "protected rider" will he still race like a leader?
9) I am not clear how the transfer system works. When do riders join your team and when can you pick them up? Can you only sign riders from Jan 1 until Jan 10 and then not again until Oct 15?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 17-10-2007 21:36
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1. The team will not dispand at the end of the first season. It's simply not possible to make things like that happen.
2. I'm currently going through my first season, but it should definitely be possible to "go over" your salary cap. But I don't know.
3. It depends.. Look at the stats -- what are they good at? If they are good at sprinting, usually it would be the best to train them as sprinters.
4. Your team can't go bankrupt and disband. The teams will stay the same forever. However, you can use database editors to change several things in your game, f.e. the names of the teams. It's a bit complicated, especially if you're new to the game.
5. I have 3-4 mythical trainers, 1 mythical doctor and 1 mythical scout. Works for me 
6. I never buy equipment. I'm yet to see any proof that there's actually an effect.
7. "(E) Use well-timed training camps (Hills or Cob in late March/early April; Mtn in late April; Mtn in mid-late June; Mtn in mid-August) to increase weak skills for both your GC contenders and their support riders. Leave one day before and after camps for rider travel."
8. Use a protected rider. Those riders are usually good at the minor races.
9. You got that one right, actually.
Sorry for the short answers, but I'm in a bit of a hurry. And welcome to the site. We are pleased to have you here 
An advice before I go: The Career Guide. It's excellent for newcomers: https://www.pcmdaily.com/readarticle.p...ticle_id=6 |
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| mdd31 |
Posted on 17-10-2007 21:51
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Thank you for your help! |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 17-10-2007 22:07
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The reason that all of Discovery Channel's riders are on a 1 year contract is that they have dispanded after 2007 in reallife
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| Crommy |
Posted on 17-10-2007 22:08
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Just adding some extra info:
1. They have 1 year contracts as in real life, the team disbands at the end of the year, so this is the length of their contracts in real life - however, as the game cannot teams to disband, they'll still be there next season
3. Depends entirely on what you want them to specialise as
4. If your team goes bankrupt, if it's the same as last year, you get a month to get back in the money, and if you don't you lose your job, and have to move to another team - they provide only a few options of which team you can manage
5. Only get mythical scouts - then go on what CrueTrue has said
6. If you want to buy new gear, just get it from one brand - it's far cheaper, and they all have about the same increase in performance, although its not much
8. You can have any rider as a leader - they'll still lead a team in a race, even if they're just a teammate, they can still lead - try to space out the amount of times you use your best rider over a season, don't use him lots of times early in the season
Hope that helps
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| mdd31 |
Posted on 17-10-2007 22:18
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I am unable to resign any of my riders in January. I keep getting a message that I have -10500 dollars available for contracts and my sponsors will not allow me to offer more than 1050/month. Needless to say 1050/month isn't going to get me much with Team Discovery. Besides using an editor is there anything I can do or do I just need to wait until later in the game to resign them? My only fear is that the game won't let me resign anyone and I will have to sign a completely new team in Oct although I guess that could be interesting! |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 17-10-2007 22:25
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Wait until later in the game - you won't be able to re-sign your own riders until much later in the season
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 17-10-2007 22:45
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mdd31 wrote:
I am unable to resign any of my riders in January. I keep getting a message that I have -10500 dollars available for contracts and my sponsors will not allow me to offer more than 1050/month. Needless to say 1050/month isn't going to get me much with Team Discovery. Besides using an editor is there anything I can do or do I just need to wait until later in the game to resign them? My only fear is that the game won't let me resign anyone and I will have to sign a completely new team in Oct although I guess that could be interesting!
Screw the sponsors! Click your way upto that 100000€ manually.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 17-10-2007 22:46
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Crommy wrote:
Just adding some extra info:
1. They have 1 year contracts as in real life, the team disbands at the end of the year, so this is the length of their contracts in real life - however, as the game cannot teams to disband, they'll still be there next season
Have anyone actually made it into 2008 yet? Will they sign enough riders to actually be able to race? If so, just how low are their chances of being in the ProTour in 2009?
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| mdd31 |
Posted on 17-10-2007 23:29
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Another question I have after reading the thread about playing Career mode. Is it still true that if you play a CT and get promoted to the Pro Tour the next season that your budget will still be VERY small and you will be unable to sign good riders due to restrictions on how much you can offer people? If this has not been changed that would appear to be a major bug and would make playing CTs not very fun at all. Any help on this would be good as I was thinking of restarting as a CT and building up but that won't be fun if I have no budget when I get to the PT. |
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| PensFan101 |
Posted on 17-10-2007 23:36
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mdd31 wrote:
Another question I have after reading the thread about playing Career mode. Is it still true that if you play a CT and get promoted to the Pro Tour the next season that your budget will still be VERY small and you will be unable to sign good riders due to restrictions on how much you can offer people? If this has not been changed that would appear to be a major bug and would make playing CTs not very fun at all. Any help on this would be good as I was thinking of restarting as a CT and building up but that won't be fun if I have no budget when I get to the PT.
Learn how to use Hannes Converter, not editor, and change the CT team's budget to a more reasonable level. One thing I notice is that each season thereafter, your budget sky rockets in an unnatural way, so just fix that unless you want like 3M to spend  . The program itself is easy to use and once you use it you can do all kinds of stuff. There should be a tutorial in the Articles section on the site. |
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| Macquet |
Posted on 18-10-2007 00:33
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Waghlon wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Just adding some extra info:
1. They have 1 year contracts as in real life, the team disbands at the end of the year, so this is the length of their contracts in real life - however, as the game cannot teams to disband, they'll still be there next season
Have anyone actually made it into 2008 yet? Will they sign enough riders to actually be able to race? If so, just how low are their chances of being in the ProTour in 2009?
I've managed to resign 21 riders including all three leaders and all the top young riders.....I think it is great to have the chance to rebuild from the ground up.....I was able to sign schumacher before the patch and build a team around him. |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 18-10-2007 00:42
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Macquet wrote:
I've managed to resign 21 riders including all three leaders and all the top young riders.....I think it is great to have the chance to rebuild from the ground up.....I was able to sign schumacher before the patch and build a team around him.
Apologies for being unclear, would the AI be capable of resigning 20ish guys?
Also, good point with the whole rebuilding thing.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-10-2007 07:01
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mdd31 wrote:
Another question I have after reading the thread about playing Career mode. Is it still true that if you play a CT and get promoted to the Pro Tour the next season that your budget will still be VERY small and you will be unable to sign good riders due to restrictions on how much you can offer people? If this has not been changed that would appear to be a major bug and would make playing CTs not very fun at all. Any help on this would be good as I was thinking of restarting as a CT and building up but that won't be fun if I have no budget when I get to the PT.
This was fixed in the latest patch (1.0.3.1) |
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| mdd31 |
Posted on 18-10-2007 16:21
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Waghlon wrote:
Screw the sponsors! Click your way upto that 100000€ manually.
I tried this and it did work. I was able to sign a rider out of free agency prior to Jan 10 but just manually raising the offer amount but it took forever. I think I will avoid doing this in the spirit of the rules of the game and to make the game harder.
Ok here is another question for everyone:
When you are offering a contract what does the amount offered reflect? Is that the amount you pay per month or is that the total value of the contract? I notice that riders give you a per month amount they think they are worth but then there is also information about total contract value. Finally will a rider ever accept a contract below the level he asks for? So for example if a rider is asking for a contract to be a Leader, would he accept a "lower" position on the team if I offered more money? And can you assign roles in the game someplace besides before the start of a race and in the contract? The "Starting a Career" thread posted earlier said something about assigning roles after Jan 13 but that option has not appeared for me. |
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| rip |
Posted on 18-10-2007 21:11
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mdd31 wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
Screw the sponsors! Click your way upto that 100000€ manually.
I tried this and it did work. I was able to sign a rider out of free agency prior to Jan 10 but just manually raising the offer amount but it took forever. I think I will avoid doing this in the spirit of the rules of the game and to make the game harder.
Ok here is another question for everyone:
When you are offering a contract what does the amount offered reflect? Is that the amount you pay per month or is that the total value of the contract? I notice that riders give you a per month amount they think they are worth but then there is also information about total contract value. Finally will a rider ever accept a contract below the level he asks for? So for example if a rider is asking for a contract to be a Leader, would he accept a "lower" position on the team if I offered more money? And can you assign roles in the game someplace besides before the start of a race and in the contract? The "Starting a Career" thread posted earlier said something about assigning roles after Jan 13 but that option has not appeared for me.
First, don't know if you know this but you can right click and the amounts go up by 1k each click instead of either clicking or holding down the left mouse button, only takes me 20 seconds or so depending on the amount I am offering. I certainly don't view this as an exploit or anything, a budget is merely a guideline, most times, they are not adhered to at all in any aspect of real life whether it be business, sport, etc etc.
Also think about it, you have a budget that if you lose too much money you lose your job if you go bankrupt, so signing all the top riders would be worthless for two reasons. One being the fact you will probably go bankrupt, second being the fact morale will drop for a lot of those riders because you won't be able to give them what they want, as far as roles, and races go. I am always over my budget because I like to have as many top helpers, sprinters, and classic riders as possible, but that's just me. Having contador, leipheimer, evans, valverde, on your team won't win you more races, in fact it will hinder you, but having some really good luxury team mates, or protected riders will help you out tons, but at the expense of being a few 100k over budget.
As far as the total contract value is concerned, not sure but I don't think it has any relative effect on your finances, not quite sure what it is though. The amount you are offering is per month in value I do believe.
And yes, riders will sign for lesser roles if given more money, at least some will, some won't. Also note that any rider who has not signed for a team by December, will ALWAYS sign for less money, and a lesser role, almost always anyways. I always shortlist all the riders I might want to get that don't have a contract come July 1st, and come December, if they are still free I look at signing them if I have the room, or I simply make the room by releasing someone that I don't need or want.
About the assigning or roles, I believe the article you are talking about was for pcm 2006, and that does not apply to 2007. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-10-2007 21:16
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For most part, the Career Guide does apply to PCM07 too. But on the specific mentioned part, it's correct that it doesn't apply to PCM07. |
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| aavf |
Posted on 18-10-2007 21:17
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mdd31 wrote:
When you are offering a contract what does the amount offered reflect?
yes, you can lower. but most times accept what he wants.
Finally will a rider ever accept a contract below the level he asks for? So for example if a rider is asking for a contract to be a Leader, would he accept a "lower" position on the team if I offered more money?
yes, its dificult some times but possible.
And can you assign roles in the game someplace besides before the start of a race and in the contract? The "Starting a Career" thread posted earlier said something about assigning roles after Jan 13 but that option has not appeared for me.
no, i think that was on pcm06 |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 18-10-2007 21:24
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I for one cant really live without going at least 25,000 over my budget. Preferably 50,000-.
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| Darkphoenix |
Posted on 19-10-2007 11:12
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Well when i started with Predictor in this new Career for PCM Spain I was already 20k over budget when it started. |
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