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Cyclo-Cross 2012-2013
Ian Butler
I don't see a thread here to discuss cyclo-cross. So I thought it might be interesting to make one, since the new season just started! Seems to me that the big three of this season will be Nys, Albert and Pauwels, as expected.
 
CountArach
Has someone got a website that outlines the basics of cyclo cross? It completely baffles me.
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Avin Wargunnson
What confuses you? They just ride the bikes in terrain Grin
There is the given time (e.g. one hour) for the race and depending on how they ride couple of first laps, the total number of laps is calculated, to match +- the one hour mark.
First at the line is winner. Smile

The riders can change bikes how many times they want in the service area.
There is World Cup and Superprestige races as the two highest tiers.
That is pretty much all. Smile

Edit:I will miss Stybar a lot this season Frown
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 02-10-2012 11:52
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Wilier
CountArach wrote:
Has someone got a website that outlines the basics of cyclo cross? It completely baffles me.


https://en.wikiped...yclo-cross

You mean something like this?

Here's the results from last weekend.

Fidea GP Neerpelt 2012
1Sven NysLandbouwkrediet - Euphony56'41"
2Niels AlbertBKCP - Powerplus
3Klaas VantornoutSunweb - Revor25"
4Dieter VanthourenhoutBKCP - Powerplus31"
5Kevin PauwelsSunweb - Revor39"
6Bart WellensTelenet - Fidea39"
7Bart AernoutsAA Drinks - Leontien.nl Cycling Team01'14"
8Tom MeeusenTelenet - Fidea01'23"
9Marcel MeisenBKCP - Powerplus01'26"
10Radomir SimunekBKCP - Powerplus01'26"


Vlaamse Industrieprijs Bosduin 2012
1Sven NysLandbouwkrediet - Euphony56'14"
2Niels AlbertBKCP - Powerplus
3Tom MeeusenTelenet - Fidea
4Lars van der HaarRabobank - Giant Off-road Team13"
5Bart WellensTelenet - Fidea13"
6Kevin PauwelsSunweb - Revor13"
7Radomir SimunekBKCP - Powerplus36"
8Bart AernoutsAA Drinks - Leontien.nl Cycling Team36"
9Francis MoureyFDJ - BigMat36"
10Rob PeetersTelenet - Fidea43"

Edited by Wilier on 02-10-2012 11:56
 
Wilier
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
What confuses you? They just ride the bikes in terrain Grin
There is the given time (e.g. one hour) for the race and depending on how they ride couple of first laps, the total number of laps is calculated, to match +- the one hour mark.
First at the line is winner. Smile

The riders can change bikes how many times they want in the service area.
There is World Cup and Superprestige races as the two highest tiers.
That is pretty much all. Smile

Edit:I will miss Stybar a lot this season Frown


And don't forget about GVA races. And than there's some international crosses that aren't part of any classification.
 
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CountArach
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
There is the given time (e.g. one hour) for the race and depending on how they ride couple of first laps, the total number of laps is calculated, to match +- the one hour mark.

Never knew that at all. This is what happens when races aren't televised.

@ Willier, somehow it never occurred to me to check wikipedia. Usually the cycling stuff on there is crap, so I don't even think to...
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Wilier
And usually you can find streams for the races on this site.
https://www.sports...ogspot.nl/
(scroll a bit down for the cycling section.)
 
CountArach
Wilier wrote:
And usually you can find streams for the races on this site.
https://www.sports...ogspot.nl/
(scroll a bit down for the cycling section.)

Unlike road cycling I don't know enough here to provide my own commentary and so I get lost without English commentary, and that isn't helpful seeing as it is mostly Dutch from what I can tell.
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Wilier
I'm excited for this season. I expect this to be the last season where Nys will be able to compete with Pauwels and Albert. I'm curious about van der Haar. He already did great in the Vlaamse Industrieprijs Bosduin.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Wilier wrote:
I'm excited for this season. I expect this to be the last season where Nys will be able to compete with Pauwels and Albert. I'm curious about van der Haar. He already did great in the Vlaamse Industrieprijs Bosduin.

Interesting rider indeed, i will be looking forward to see him. Czech cyclocross will be mainly on shoulders of young Simunek (he is not so young now, but i say it with respect to his father) this year, he will be probably again competing for top 5-10s, like in the first races this year.

@Count: You cant really be much confused after seeing few races and getting used to how the riders from the top look like, they are then usually at the front of the every race and directors does not show usually anything else further than top 10 during the race. But flemish and dutch are killer languages, i was rather watching it with sound off sometimes Pfft
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 02-10-2012 13:10
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dienblad
And we must not forget: the Belgians are killing the sport with their domination, when both Stybar and Boom don't participate. Hopefully young Dutch Van der Haar and some Frenchies can get some p0dium places...
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Wilier
Even without them the sport is still fun to watch. But I agree it would be even better with them. Now it will be Nys vs Albert vs Pauwels every race. It would be more when with Nys vs Albert vs Pauwels vs Stybar vs Boom.
 
Ian Butler
It doesn't make it boring, though. I really like cyclo cross, one hour of fun! Guaranteed.
Although the WC of last year was a joke (the entire Belgian team finished in front of the rest Grin)

I'm curious about the WC in America, maybe Nys can shake off his bad-WC past! (Nys always tends to do bad at WC, although he wins nearly everything else Pfft)

@CountArach: It's not that difficult, you'll get the hang of it after a couple of races, I'm sure of it Smile
Edited by Ian Butler on 02-10-2012 21:46
 
Ian Butler
So what can we expect this weekend? Last week Pauwels wasn't in his best shape yet, I personally think he needs a few weeks. He's mostly a slow starter but he stays on a high level all season.
I hope to see another dual between Nys and Albert, or at least I expect this. Wonder if Nys will stay sharp all through the winter, though. He's had a hard summer as well.
 
Wilier
Ian Butler wrote:
So what can we expect this weekend? Last week Pauwels wasn't in his best shape yet, I personally think he needs a few weeks. He's mostly a slow starter but he stays on a high level all season.
I hope to see another dual between Nys and Albert, or at least I expect this. Wonder if Nys will stay sharp all through the winter, though. He's had a hard summer as well.


I don't know about the weather in Belgium, but here in the Netherlands it's raining a lot last days. Could be a very muddy cross. Smile

I expect Nys and Albert once again to be the strongest.
 
Ian Butler
Weather forecast: only day it won't rain is Sunday.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Still it can be pretty muddy from the previous showers. I am looking forward to the race. But what i cant wait for is World cup race in Tabor where i will be present like every year now, 2 weeks from this Sunday. Smile
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Ian Butler
Ah just got the Cyclo-cross guide for this season with the newspaper!
Tomorrow is Ruddervoorde (superprestige), Last year's result:
1. Albest
2. Aernouts
3 K. Vantornout
4. Nys
5. Wellens

Weather expectations are good, so my guess is Nys. Some long sections where power will be a plus (maybe a small sprint again)
 
canojuancho
I think we will see Nys Vs. Albert in all the cross season, they are the strongest.

Watch out for Lars van der haar a young rider with a lot of potential, he finished in 4th position last race.
 
Ian Butler
Agreed. He is the n° 1 rider to look for qua non-Belgians. Let's hope he can throw in a few surprised!
 
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