|
Breaways in PCM 12
|
| faza42 |
Posted on 30-09-2012 10:50
|
Amateur
Posts: 5
Joined: 30-12-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Has anyone noticed that the peloton seem to always pull back the break? I know I'm playing s a continental team but can't seem to ever get a break to stick |
| |
|
|
| Lachi |
Posted on 30-09-2012 17:24
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8516
Joined: 29-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I have almost never seen a stage where there was no break.
Normally the first break will not be able to get away but one of the latter will.
So what is you problem?
Edited by Lachi on 30-09-2012 17:32
|
| |
|
|
| faza42 |
Posted on 01-10-2012 05:58
|
Amateur
Posts: 5
Joined: 30-12-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
only in pcm 12 ive noticed, i can alway get a break to get away but they never stay away, its most likely cause im racing continental with low stats on my team but its frustrating to say the least |
| |
|
|
| Munique |
Posted on 01-10-2012 06:46
|
Junior Rider
Posts: 45
Joined: 22-02-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Lachi wrote:
I have almost never seen a stage where there was no break.
Normally the first break will not be able to get away but one of the latter will.
So what is you problem?
I think his problem is that the breaks are wheeled in before finish - not in the beginning of the race. |
| |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-10-2012 07:05
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Well, it also depends what races you ride. In most one-day races the breakaway won't make it, but in stage races, you'll see that the breakaway can make it, if they aren't a threat to the GC.
However, I've had some one-day races where I attacked from mid-race and made it to the finish.
You need a bit of luck, also  |
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 24-11-2024 17:25
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| feathered flyer |
Posted on 02-10-2012 21:09
|
Amateur
Posts: 5
Joined: 18-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
I have won from a breakaway in one day races on hard, it is difficult but you can definatley make them stick in stage races! |
| |
|
|
| rogvi97 |
Posted on 02-10-2012 21:28
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 933
Joined: 10-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
I won with Bouyer from the morning breakaway and I was two minutes in frnt of the peleton... I also got a 2nd with Pelucchi sprinting his way.
No signature available
|
| |
|
|
| wfcdragons |
Posted on 03-10-2012 08:48
|
Amateur
Posts: 21
Joined: 18-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
I think it's pretty realistic in that most breakaways are caught by the peloton but I've won with Nordhaug and others in one-day races. It is easier to win on breakaways in the GC races, particularly in later stages when leading riders and teams are conserving energy to only hunt breakaways including rival contenders. Get one of your stronger riders who isnt up in the GC ranks in a breakaway and hope you get a good time gap. |
| |
|
|
| Alphabet |
Posted on 03-10-2012 09:46
|
Junior Rider
Posts: 44
Joined: 11-09-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
I won Liege-Bastogne-Liege with Voeckler in a breakaway, lol. I wheelsucked most of the way then attacked with like 10km to go, and beat the peloton by about 30 seconds.
The trick, I find, is to spot the right move and make sure you're in it. Early breakaways are rarely permitted to go by the peloton, if there's a breakaway attempt around a third to the halfway point of the race completed, that's usually the one that can get away.
Edited by Alphabet on 03-10-2012 09:49
|
| |
|
|
| Firewolf |
Posted on 03-10-2012 14:25
|
Junior Rider
Posts: 48
Joined: 28-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
wfcdragons wrote:
I think it's pretty realistic in that most breakaways are caught by the peloton but I've won with Nordhaug and others in one-day races. It is easier to win on breakaways in the GC races, particularly in later stages when leading riders and teams are conserving energy to only hunt breakaways including rival contenders. Get one of your stronger riders who isnt up in the GC ranks in a breakaway and hope you get a good time gap.
Yeah I'd go with dragon on that one. It's not always certain, but I've won plenty of races with breakaways.
I don't know if I have a mind block, but I do find one day races harder to win with breakaways. |
| |
|
|
| roturn |
Posted on 03-10-2012 14:32
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Obviously one-day races are harder as all teams just have this one stage to win.
In stage races teams going for the GC won`t go all-in when guys are already far behind in the rankings.
Just look through the PCM12 story section. Lots of stages will end in breakaways. Actually a pretty realistic amount. |
| |
|
|
| wfcdragons |
Posted on 03-10-2012 15:19
|
Amateur
Posts: 21
Joined: 18-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
I think they've got the success rate of breakaways spot-on in PCM12 personally. I've really enjoyed the odd victory I've managed and enjoyed setting up chases in the Peloton to catch others too. |
| |
|
|
| misar82 |
Posted on 03-10-2012 15:41
|
Stagiare
Posts: 170
Joined: 26-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
I agree breakways are better in pcm12, but there's some AI behaviour from the pack in GTs that I find pretty annoying. Basically the pack won´t chase breakaways at all during the 2nd and 3rd week, unless it's a flat stage. As a result you always get in those cases breakaways of 15-20 riders, which is not realistc and a pain in the butt if you want to control the race just a little bit.
"Between me and Eddie Merkcx we have won all the classics. I won the Paris-Tours, he won all the rest"
Nöel Vantyghem
|
| |
|
|
| pavuk |
Posted on 07-10-2012 16:22
|
Free Agent
Posts: 147
Joined: 28-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Hi, i have a question about breakaways:
I've managed to break with 2 of my support riders only (no other rider in break), nicely increasing time from minute to 2 with 63 relay... when one guy from peleton react a run possibly at 99 right after mine double,
peloton starts chase him but he work hard and after some time he joins my group, and now he completely put pedals off, no relay from him even on 30 and half-chasing peloton about 1/3 race, time drops from 2:50 to less then minute a he sits as 3. all the time at group, do nothing...
so what to do in this situation? i tried to attack with both riders, but after that, situation was the same, he just dot at 99 and join again or when i rely on 99 he still get about 20 sec after me, but it means no chance for mine 2 guys with more then half race to do.
Yep, thats me down here...
...The Wall. |
| |
|
|
| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 07-10-2012 16:25
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4573
Joined: 07-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
It is definetly easier to make a break stick in the mountains however it is muck harder on a flat stage (because the sprinters want a stage win)
|
| |
|
|
| cio93 |
Posted on 07-10-2012 16:30
|
World Champion
Posts: 10845
Joined: 29-10-2007
PCM$: 500.00
|
pavuk wrote:
Hi, i have a question about breakaways:
I've managed to break with 2 of my support riders only (no other rider in break), nicely increasing time from minute to 2 with 63 relay... when one guy from peleton react a run possibly at 99 right after mine double,
peloton starts chase him but he work hard and after some time he joins my group, and now he completely put pedals off, no relay from him even on 30 and half-chasing peloton about 1/3 race, time drops from 2:50 to less then minute a he sits as 3. all the time at group, do nothing...
so what to do in this situation? i tried to attack with both riders, but after that, situation was the same, he just dot at 99 and join again or when i rely on 99 he still get about 20 sec after me, but it means no chance for mine 2 guys with more then half race to do.
Just the usual AI problems.
(I assume you ticked off passive multiplayer AI, although I don't know whether that was already fixed in a patch)
|
| |
|
|
| pavuk |
Posted on 07-10-2012 17:01
|
Free Agent
Posts: 147
Joined: 28-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
ah good point cio, i have it turned on, but its a normal carrier, not multiplayer so i dont get it... it rly can couse my problem?
Yep, thats me down here...
...The Wall. |
| |
|
|
| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 07-10-2012 17:12
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4573
Joined: 07-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Yes |
| |
|
|
| pavuk |
Posted on 07-10-2012 17:45
|
Free Agent
Posts: 147
Joined: 28-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
yep now i see it, tried same race again and now it was completely different, 4 ppl (one mine) relaying well and get max 7 min lead, till last hill where I attack and finished second when peloton catch him right on the line 
thx for that tip 
Yep, thats me down here...
...The Wall. |
| |
|
