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Morale and performance
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| misar82 |
Posted on 19-08-2012 20:48
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I noticed now it is a bit harder to improve riders morale, compared to previous editions - you don´t have the options of congratulating them after victories and winning does not seem to affect their morale much, or not at all. Not sure how important morale is for performance - say for example, between a "satisfied" rider versus a "happy" or "very happy" one... any thoughts?
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 19-08-2012 22:50
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For signing a contract it matters (a bit), but for performance, I don't know. It doesn't do very much anyway, I believe. |
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 20-08-2012 09:21
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Morale has influence on performance and fatigue.
If he has a lower morale his fatigue will increase faster. He will also perform worse in races. It's a complete joke that the only way to change it is through training camps. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 20-08-2012 09:23
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Are you sure it influences anything?
Any table for this?
I never really experienced an influence.
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| Arne80 |
Posted on 13-03-2013 14:47
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Plus if morale is low the rider is less willing to renew his contract. All I know is that morale can be boosted by attending recovery training camps and thats it. No other variants than just spending money on leisure...Ridiculous imo |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 13-03-2013 15:34
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I did a pre-season training camp in order to raise the morale for some of my riders. I usually do like 2-3-4-2-4-2-3-4-2 or something like that. as the TC went on, I got messages that lots of the riders were happy. when they returned, their morale was lower (?) than before. since I know that in previous editions the morale should´ve been higher, I went to lachis edtior and changed the morale myself 
and it doesn´t seem like you can affect it by winning races or if the teamate wins races. |
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| Arne80 |
Posted on 14-03-2013 08:15
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Which totally proves my point. The effects on morale are illogical and often poor morale can lead to your riders not wanting to extend their contracts. Sorry to say it but it sucks.
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| kubys |
Posted on 07-05-2013 13:41
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The morale on this version is just piece of sh*t. Actually it does ENORMOUSLY affect the performance of riders not only in meaning of fatigue but also somehow they perform worse in their strong areas, than it's expected and also they inrace morale is obviously tendenced to be -5 than to be in plus areas.
I don't agree with the opinion that the wininng of races doesn't affect the morale - it does, but only in term that the rider is still developing and isn't known by whole world. When your superstar win TdF and Giro and so on, it doesn't affect him much which is really shame.
The other problem is the preseason trainng camp obv. It says, that when riders work harder, their morale would bei worse. But when I setted up my training programme of 4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-5, they morale was better when I tried 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2. Very annoynig that fact.
Edited by kubys on 07-05-2013 13:42
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| tellico |
Posted on 07-05-2013 14:02
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kubys wrote:
Actually it does ENORMOUSLY affect the performance of riders not only in meaning of fatigue but also somehow they perform worse in their strong areas, than it's expected and also they inrace morale is obviously tendenced to be -5 than to be in plus areas.
I don't agree with the opinion that the wininng of races doesn't affect the morale - it does, but only in term that the rider is still developing and isn't known by whole world. When your superstar win TdF and Giro and so on, it doesn't affect him much which is really shame.
Any numbers...? Tables? Tests maybe...? SOMETHING more than feelings? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 07-05-2013 14:08
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Can you prove this indeed?
I completely have a different experience with that! 
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Edited by Jesleyh on 07-05-2013 14:56
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| 547984 |
Posted on 07-05-2013 14:55
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Arne80 wrote:
Plus if morale is low the rider is less willing to renew his contract. All I know is that morale can be boosted by attending recovery training camps and thats it. No other variants than just spending money on leisure...Ridiculous imo
Recovery training camp...not pre-season. Why would rider morale go up after training?
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| Lachi |
Posted on 07-05-2013 15:04
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That is a good question but the game works like that, at least the previous games did.
When selecting an easy program in the pre-season camp, the rider would gain less fitness but be happy because he had no problems doing the program. |
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| kubys |
Posted on 07-05-2013 18:28
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Jesleyh wrote:
Can you prove this indeed?
I completely have a different experience with that!
Oh, and welcome on the forum
tellico wrote:
07-05-2013 14:02
kubys wrote:
Actually it does ENORMOUSLY affect the performance of riders not only in meaning of fatigue but also somehow they perform worse in their strong areas, than it's expected and also they inrace morale is obviously tendenced to be -5 than to be in plus areas.
I don't agree with the opinion that the wininng of races doesn't affect the morale - it does, but only in term that the rider is still developing and isn't known by whole world. When your superstar win TdF and Giro and so on, it doesn't affect him much which is really shame.
Any numbers...? Tables? Tests maybe...? SOMETHING more than feelings?
I'll probably do some research with compilation, 'cause to be honest, I'm quite new to 2012 version (I was stucked with 2010 version that much, I wasn't really thinking about buying '11 or '12). Everything, what I had written was on base of my in game experience.
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| LLDS |
Posted on 31-05-2013 12:10
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Has anyone some results ? |
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