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Which races to ride in a season in Career mode?
FasT
Im goin to start in career mode for the first time with Team sky.
Can u give me any advice on which races to enter/dates...
And also the best times and dates to train my rides inbetween when not riding.And which levels.
All a little confusing as my first time and any help would b most grateful!

i did notice certain riders want to race certain races..

Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!
 
Lachi
The game automatically selects some races for all your riders. You could just follow this suggestion if you playing a career for the first time.

I am not sure what you question about training means. I guess you should read the manual or some tips in this forum.
Or if you mean the fitness planning. Check the schedules which are predefined by the game to understand how it works. These are fitness planning schedules, so you set it at the start of the season to define the form peaks of each rider.

Do not care about the preferred races of the riders, else it get to confusing.
 
FasT
ok thanks will search about for more info on the training side! etc.
 
FasT
Forgot to ask which races should i let my under 25 and under 21 race? Any good ones to help them develop?
 
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cio93
FasT wrote:
Forgot to ask which races should i let my under 25 and under 21 race? Any good ones to help them develop?


Development is completely unrelated to which races they do, you can even let them race 0 days without changing the stats evolution.


But if you want to know which races suit better to "mediocre" riders, let them peak for preparation races (Romandie, Suisse/Dauphine, Eneco) where the favourites have less form, or for races that clash with big ones (Pologne, Vattenfall).

Another good strategy is to peak for the early races (TDU, Paris-Nice/Tirreno) or the late ones (Beijing, Lombardia) as many fitness plans don't focus on these at all.
Edited by cio93 on 14-07-2012 19:31
 
Lachi
Are you playing PCM 2011? If not, then please post in the correct forum.
The rider development has changed over the years. In PCM 2011 you can influence the development only by selecting an appropriate training and assign a corresponding trainer.
 
FasT
Yes PCM 11 with the newest data base!
 
yoejo
Do a season plan for all your riders. Which riders do you want in the cobbles classics. Pick out 6-8 riders. Then select those cobble riders and select a training program so those riders peak for paris-roubaix.

Now, which riders do you want for the giro? select 8-9 guys and let them peak for the giro.
Which riders do you want for the tour de france? Pick out 8-9 riders and let them peak to tour de france.

Those ridersd that are doing the Giro will also be able to do the vuelta without tire them out completely.
Those riders who do the tour will also be able to do paris-nice, tirreno adriatico or the ardennes classics and then recover for the tour.
Between the peak you let a rider rest completely by select the training program custom (which is all red and means his fitness will be dropping fast, which also let him not be tired out)

Planning the training programs and peaks are the key to success. It´s not an opinion. It´s a fact. Ask if you got more questions.
 
BlueMidget
cio93 wrote:
FasT wrote:
Forgot to ask which races should i let my under 25 and under 21 race? Any good ones to help them develop?


Development is completely unrelated to which races they do, you can even let them race 0 days without changing the stats evolution.


But if you want to know which races suit better to "mediocre" riders, let them peak for preparation races (Romandie, Suisse/Dauphine, Eneco) where the favourites have less form, or for races that clash with big ones (Pologne, Vattenfall).

Another good strategy is to peak for the early races (TDU, Paris-Nice/Tirreno) or the late ones (Beijing, Lombardia) as many fitness plans don't focus on these at all.


Is this a new feature?

I remember reading that your youngsters improve faster when entering races of their level. (Not finishing last every time etc.)
Edited by BlueMidget on 16-07-2012 04:21
 
CrueTrue
It's been in the manual for some time, but it isn't true. Feature was removed in 2008 or something like that.
 
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FasT
yoejo wrote:
Do a season plan for all your riders. Which riders do you want in the cobbles classics. Pick out 6-8 riders. Then select those cobble riders and select a training program so those riders peak for paris-roubaix.

Now, which riders do you want for the giro? select 8-9 guys and let them peak for the giro.
Which riders do you want for the tour de france? Pick out 8-9 riders and let them peak to tour de france.

Those ridersd that are doing the Giro will also be able to do the vuelta without tire them out completely.
Those riders who do the tour will also be able to do paris-nice, tirreno adriatico or the ardennes classics and then recover for the tour.
Between the peak you let a rider rest completely by select the training program custom (which is all red and means his fitness will be dropping fast, which also let him not be tired out)

Planning the training programs and peaks are the key to success. It´s not an opinion. It´s a fact. Ask if you got more questions.


Oh so you make a fitness schedule to peak then you change your schedule after the race to a custom all red one so you can rest?
 
cio93
FasT wrote:
yoejo wrote:
Do a season plan for all your riders. Which riders do you want in the cobbles classics. Pick out 6-8 riders. Then select those cobble riders and select a training program so those riders peak for paris-roubaix.

Now, which riders do you want for the giro? select 8-9 guys and let them peak for the giro.
Which riders do you want for the tour de france? Pick out 8-9 riders and let them peak to tour de france.

Those ridersd that are doing the Giro will also be able to do the vuelta without tire them out completely.
Those riders who do the tour will also be able to do paris-nice, tirreno adriatico or the ardennes classics and then recover for the tour.
Between the peak you let a rider rest completely by select the training program custom (which is all red and means his fitness will be dropping fast, which also let him not be tired out)

Planning the training programs and peaks are the key to success. It´s not an opinion. It´s a fact. Ask if you got more questions.


Oh so you make a fitness schedule to peak then you change your schedule after the race to a custom all red one so you can rest?



Some consider it cheating, because the fitness drops faster than the one level per week ratio the game originally demands.

But it'll get the best out of your riders, and as the fitness/fatigue/race days calculation seems to be slightly off compared to reality anyways...
 
Lachi
I am pretty sure that this does not work. At least Cyanide wrote, that the game will always use the appropriate level, no matter if you try to cheat and put the levels higher or lower as they should be in regard of the fitness of the rider.
 
cio93
I never tried both ways at the same time, so you might be right.
 
FasT
ok Smile
 
yoejo
"Oh so you make a fitness schedule to peak then you change your schedule after the race to a custom all red one so you can rest?"

Have problems with quoting text, hope u see this anyway. Yes, that´s exactly what I´m talkin about. rest hard, and then planning for next peak. peaking form with riders for different races is the key to success.

Didn´t knew some considered it cheating though. I discovered the custom-schedule by myself an dused my common sense and realised it would be a good rest schedule for two-three months for my best riders.
Just PM for more detailed questions about peaking a rider.


 
Lachi
Like I said, I doubt that this "custom rest schedule" works.
According to Cyandide you cannot cheat because the game considers the actual fitness level of the rider and would ignore the schedule.
 
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