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Protecting riders
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 12-03-2012 01:12
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So I am trying to get my sprinter through a mountainous tour, he is a 59 in the mountains. So defintely some issues with making the time cut. To help out I have been trying to protect him with a stronger climber on most stages. Both to reduce his effort and so he has help making up time if I think the time cut is an issue.
But everytime the peloton splits when my riders are in the middle of the pack the sprinter sinks backwards and the protecting rider rides on without him and ends up in a different group. Thereby blowing the whole point of protection - isn't the guy doing the protecting supposed to stay with his teammate?
Then I have to indiviudually manage the protecting rider back to the sprinter, which is very tedious and then the same thing happens on the next climb. Haven't got to the grand tour yet but afraid it will be a huge pain.
Do other have this problem? Is there a way around this, other strategies for protecting the sprinter? |
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| canojuancho |
Posted on 12-03-2012 03:14
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Well, if a sprinter has 59 MON and you protect him with a climber with 78/79 MON, your sprinter can't keep the effort and obviously your climber will go forward because he has better MON stats.
You can not expect that a sprinter go quietly in a mountain port. |
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 12-03-2012 06:09
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I don't use a 78 MON climber, but even if I did, he shouldn't ride off leaving the sprinter in the dust when the team has assigned him to protect the sprinter. I am typically using guys with MON stats in the high 60's. |
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| mattie524 |
Posted on 12-03-2012 06:35
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just curious, if you had a decent climber, wouldnt you go with him for the GC? or are you just trying to get him to keep up? That happened to me with Mark Cavendish in a tour XP
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| kissaha |
Posted on 12-03-2012 07:18
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Ulrich Ulriksen wrote:
But everytime the peloton splits when my riders are in the middle of the pack the sprinter sinks backwards and the protecting rider rides on without him and ends up in a different group. Thereby blowing the whole point of protection - isn't the guy doing the protecting supposed to stay with his teammate?
I have this issue as well with protecting in the mountains, and I don't have a sollution for it. It seems like the protecting rider just rides with the group he is currently instead of sitting back with his leader. |
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| ratzfatz |
Posted on 12-03-2012 07:41
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Same here. Protecting in the mountains isn't what it should be. You can protect the better with the worse, but not otherwise. |
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 13-03-2012 02:18
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ratzfatz, kisaha - Thanks for the confirmation. Seems like a bug, hopefully addressed in 12.
mattie524 - yes I would. I am not saying I use my decent climber to protect the sprinter, I am trying to use my mediocre climber so my sprinter doesn't miss the time cut. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 13-03-2012 16:45
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Do real-life cyclist teams use a helper for their sprinter to prevent them from falling outside the time limit. I heavily doubt that, because there is the "autobus". And if the autobus cannot stay within the time limit, the officials might give point penalties rather then kicking the whole bunch out of the race (like seen in the TdF twice last year).
In that sense I doubt that protecting a sprinter with a climber is a tactic which should be used in the game.
I think it should be enough to adjust the effort bar of your sprinter so that he does not drop out of the peloton on the first few uphill kilometers. |
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