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Nokere - Koerse Discussion
SportingNonsense
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Its the first opportunity for the continental riders to battle it out over the cobbles, and on paper it shouldnt be the hardest cobbled races this year - the main test being a down and up cobbled section inside the final kilometre.

But in reality, the race can still be torn apart. Last year Vanspeybrouck won by attacking with a lap to go, and holding off the chase of Steegmans, Blythe and Gusev. The year before that, again we had a solo winner in Enrico Franzoi. The race can come down to the final climb though - as it did in 2009 with a win for O'Grady.

IKEA may be gone, but the duo of Vanspeybrouck and Albert remain, further strengthened by Maes as part of Team Bpost's lineup. They lead the Belgian challenge, along with Pokerstars' Nolf.

Adam Blythe will also be a force to be reckoned with once again, while Langeveld and Veelers lead Koppert's Dutch contingent, and for France it is Focused's Gaudin and Trilux's Coyot.

But if it all stays together and comes to a charge up the final hill, Saab could also bring Hushovd and Breschel into play. And then theres the expensive sprinter Vantomme of Rothaus. Rather than start his season in the flat sprinter classics, like most other sprinters, he starts it in a cobbled race!

Spoiler
Bpost
1. P. Vanspeybrouck
2. N. Albert
3. R. Broers
4. S. Dillier
5. N. Maes
6. J. Polanc
7. G. Van Keirsbulck

Rapha Condor
11. A. Blythe
12. C. Anguilet
13. A. Bakari
14. H. Kiprotich
15. T. Last
16. T. Teklit
17. E. Van Wyk

Pokerstars
21. F. Nolf
22. D. Boucher
23. A. Geslin
24. N. Ingels
25. R. Kluge
26. K. Van Impe

Koppert
31. S. Langeveld
32. O. Freire
33. A. Kamyshev
34. T. Stamsnijder
35. F. Taillefour
36. B. Traksel
37. T. Veelers

Focus
41. D. Gaudin
42. J. Adams
43. J. Debusschere
44. R. Hardy
45. A. Kirsch
46. C. Pineau
47. T. Skujins

Trilux
51. A. Coyot
52. M. Eichler
53. H. Haussler
54. S. Krauss
55. G. Rast
56. A. Saramotins
57. S. Tronet

Saab
61. M. Breschel
62. T. Hushovd
63. K. Ista
64. A. Lund
65. J. Pronk
66. P. Renäng
67. K. Van Hummel

Proximus
71. M. De Maar
72. J. Claes
73. I. Kip
74. H. Ma
75. E. Reekers
76. D. Shatskikh
77. K. Uugunbayar

Tinkoff
81. D. Kozontchuk
82. P. Ignatenko
83. A. Khatuntsev
84. P. Korzh
85. B. Shpilevski
86. A. Timofeev
87. K. Yatsevich

Red Bull
91. J. Giaux
92. G. Brown
93. A. Hansen
94. A. Jelloul
95. C. Manarelli
96. C. Sutton
97. S. Vanthourenhout

Rothaus
101. M. Vantomme
102. J. Ariesen
103. E. Baumann
104. T. Koep
105. M. Landa
106. C. Westphal
107. F. Willems

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ember
This should be a great one. I'd say Bpost are the favourite, strongly challenged by Blythe. Hopefully there will be lots of attacking.

Looking forward to it!
 
Heine
Here start bposts season, can they accept anything Else than winning?

Edit: on gf's iPad, it is on nowegian and likes to fix my spelling
Edited by Heine on 05-11-2011 13:19
 
roturn
Yeay. What have I thought to take part in this race? I really don`t know. Probably I had some PCM09 Nokere-Koerse in mind without cobbles or so.

So I just can hop for a succesful break with Willems or even Vantomme himself. Wink
 
Heine
I will actually cheer for Vantomme in this race Grin Just for the sake of it
 
Smowz
I get the feeling with 2 incredably powerful teams in Bpost and Pokerstars that the CTour cobbled races will be a bit more controlled.

The big question mark for them though is can they drop the cobblers who can sprint namely Blythe, Breschel and Hushovd? Or even Giaux and Vantomme?

I think Bpost and Pokerstars will have plenty of numbers in the top 20, but can they get men onto the top step of the podium?

I'll go for a Breschel win. (actually my brain says Blythe but surely not Rapha again!)
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roturn
Fun Facts

- Belgium with the biggest amount of riders (15) followed by the Netherlands (11)
- Weakest rider: Egbert Reekers (Proximus/61,00)
- Strongest rider: Adam Blythe (Rapha/77,20)
- Average average: 70,900
- Highest salary: Maxime Vantomme (Rothaus/€ 700.000) What a surprise Wink
- Average wage: 102.123€
- Youngest rider: Alex Kirsch (Focus/19)
- Oldest rider: Oscar Freire (Koppert/36)
- Average age: 26,711
- Youngest team: Focused Cycling (23,286)
- Oldest teams: Saab & Trilux (29,571)
- 8 loanies, Focused riding with 4
- 2 National Road Champions: Jelloul (Jayco/MOR), Anguilet (Rapha/GAB)
 
roturn
Smowz wrote:
I get the feeling with 2 incredably powerful teams in Bpost and Pokerstars that the CTour cobbled races will be a bit more controlled.

The big question mark for them though is can they drop the cobblers who can sprint namely Blythe, Breschel and Hushovd? Or even Giaux and Vantomme?

I think Bpost and Pokerstars will have plenty of numbers in the top 20, but can they get men onto the top step of the podium?

I'll go for a Breschel win. (actually my brain says Blythe but surely not Rapha again!)

Talking about cobbler teams you surely forget Koppert, who are similar strong than Pokerstars imo. Also Trilux must be mentioned although they miss the big cobble star.
 
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Heine
I would say that Belgium haveing the highest number of riders were as big a suprise as Vantomme haveing the highest salary :-p
 
jt1109
Cheering for Blythe just because Wink head says Bpost wins though.
 
CountArach
Let's hope that a full third of my budget spent on cobblestone riders proves worthwhile...

I worry that it may not be tough enough though and that Blythe can take it in a sprint.
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felix_29
No surprise my team is the oldest. It´s good enough to get a Top10 plus (hopefully) another rider in the Top20 but it shouldn´t be mentioned in one row with Bpost etc.
Let´s see what the gameplay does with Bpost squad, as they should take the win here.
 
roturn
Not in one row with the other 3. But with all of your riders being 70+ cobblers, you can expect them to do very well here, too.
 
ember
Second thoughts now, and I think we will see a successful attack from either a Bpost or a Pokerstars.com rider, or a move containing one from each of those teams. They clearly have the two strongest teams, and how many other strong team mates will be in the front group when either a Bpost or a Pokerstars rider attacks? Lets say Nolf and Vanspeybrouck attacks together on the final kilometers, I can't see anyone catching them, meaning the sprint behind will be about minor places.

But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us? Smile
 
beagle
Nolf most likely can´t compete with Vanspeybrouck on this circuit, profile is too hard. I will be happy with podium + some more TOP10 places with rest of team up to TOP25...maybe my team will finally wake up here?
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viking90
Smowz wrote:

I'll go for a Breschel win. (actually my brain says Blythe but surely not Rapha again!)


I can accept that Wink Last year we didnot have anyone worth mentioned in a cobbelrace, so its good too atleast have a chance this year Smile
 
SportingNonsense
ember wrote:
But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us? Smile


Later today hopefully.
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Heine
SportingNonsense wrote:
ember wrote:
But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us? Smile


Later today hopefully.


Good Grin We need to finish the shit races (Read as: Races I'm not in) :-p
 
roturn
Heine wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
ember wrote:
But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us? Smile


Later today hopefully.


Good Grin We need to finish the shit races (Read as: Races I'm not in) :-p

Better read as: Where Vantomme is the worst of all leaders. Wink
 
roturn
Again???
Ruijgh in Corsica and Vantomme here. My riders seem to have a great form at the moment. Maybe Vantomme can prove most critics wrong and show his full potential this season.

In general a pretty weird race with too less and too easy cobbled sections to make the race very selective. But nevertheless I had more expectations for this race to be dominated by the big classic teams.

Luckily for these teams the next two cobbled classics should be much more selective with all the uphill pavement sections and harder hills. Also the first stage of De Panne seems to be much harder than this classic.
Edited by roturn on 10-11-2011 00:21
 
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