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Paris-Nice Discussion V2
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 31-08-2011 00:22
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As you will no doubt have noticed, there was a DB error in the game that Kami had posted 3 stages of, and had played all of. This unfortunately means the race has to be started again from scratch, and the stages of V1 are cleared from the Management Game. I dont know what the results were there, and I dont need to.
And since Kami is now busy, Ill be taking on Paris-Nice. And the good news for you all is, Vesuvio shouldnt be anywhere in the GC battle here! Ill update the thread with a startlist for the corrected Paris-Nice when I get round to start the race. I might not be able to get it started before Thursday, and to compensate for all the delay, the quality of reports may not be the most detailed, as priority now needs to be to get the speed back up again!
'The race to the sun'. One of the traditional preparation races for Milan - San Remo. This year's parcour includes 3 flat stages, 3 hilly stages, 1 mountain stage and a hilly time-trial. We'll probably see the biggest gaps on stage 5 & 6. On the other stages, the last climb is pretty far away from the finish.
The variety of stages brings top-class riders on most fields to this race. On paper, the first 3 (maybe 4?) stages will be for the sprinters. When taking a look at the field you can see quite a few top sprinters here. Santander with Ventoso, Bacardi with Steegmans and Carmeuse with Roelandts came just for those stages. They are joined by Qatar winner Swift, Kreder, Granjel Cabrera, Vanderbiest, Pozzato, Lavoine, Feillu, Castenada and Hofman among others.
For the overall, Gesink is the favorites, as the combination of hills, TT and mountains should suit him best. He's very closely followed by last years TdF-winner Spilak and Trofimov. Both also excel in all 3 disciplines, with Trofimov also being able to ride a decent sprint. They are joined by riders who are good at different disciplines and at that point the guessing starts; which stages will be decisive? Will a rider like Pozzato who can't climb get a good result, or will a pure climber like Iglinski end high? Or will it come down to the time-trial where we will see Zabriskie and Rogers face off?
Starlist Spoiler Jack Wolfskin
1. R. Gesink
2. S. Chavanel
3. D. Cornu
4. J. Donald
5. M. Kreder
6. M. Sieberg
7. B. Vaugrenard
Warner Bros
11. S. Spilak
12. C. Barredo
13. K. De Ketele
14. M. Facci
15. K. Hulsmans
16. C. Le Mével
17. I. Mayo
18. Y. Talabardon
Sony
21. Y. Trofimov
22. S. Anza
23. K. Fouquet
24. R. Granjel Cabrera
25. D. Muravjev
26. S. Pauwels
27. A. Wetterhall
UBS
31. S. Schumacher
32. S. Barrio
33. R. Bertogliati
34. R. Chtioui
35. K. Lalouette
36. D. Lelay
37. F. Stalder
Webeffect
41. A. Kashechkin
42. D. Appollonio
43. J. Baugnies
44. K. Boeckmans
45. G. Brizuela
46. A. Gilanipoor
47. F. Matamoros
48. S. Nooytens
Spyker
51. P. Sinkewitz
52. S. Cohnen
53. M. Pedersen
54. M. Reimer
55. E. Weiss
56. A. Zeits
Pearl
61. P. Velits
62. E. Berthou
63. T. Kangert
64. J. Mendes
65. L. Mondory
66. Y. Offredo
67. E. Popov
68. R. Vanderbiest
B&O
71. N. Keinath
72. J. Drucker
73. C. Jørgensen
74. K. Nielsen
75. J. Sagan
76. A. Steensen
77. S. Stenersen
Pendleton's
81. D. Zabriskie
82. S. Duret
83. M. Ladagnous
84. D. Millar
85. K. Siutsou
86. G. Thomas
87. B. Wiggins
Festina
91. F. Pozzato
92. L. Bøchman
93. K. Goddaert
94. O. Kaisen
95. A. Lavoine
96. D. Rijntjes
97. P. Voss
Vesuvio
101. M. Iglinski
102. C. Betancourt
103. N. Clesen
104. S. Einsle
105. B. Gastauer
106. D. Mehr-Wenige
107. B. Swift
Wikipedia
111. T. Van Garderen
112. B. Caldwell
113. J. Casper
114. R. Cleaver
115. E. King
116. G. Lejman
117. T. Pinot
118. M. Sprick
Team VW
121. K. Reus
122. W. Anacona
123. G. Brenes
124. A. Flügel
125. R. Förster
126. W. Li
127. J. Veikkanen
128. R. Zabel
Focus
131. R. Sicard
132. B. Feillu
133. R. Feillu
134. D. Gaudin
135. B. Jungels
136. A. Kirsch
137. F. Morizot
138. T. Skujins
Colombia
141. M. Rogers
142. A. Ardila Cano
143. J. Castañeda
144. H. Gallardo
145. S. Ivars
146. S. Joly
147. W. RodrÃguez Parra
Nestlé
151. D. Di Luca
152. H. Aguilar
153. S. Caldeira
154. P. Fédrigo
155. N. Hoffman
156. N. Portal
157. M. Schär
Milka
161. J. Coppel
162. M. Bouet
163. A. Delaplace
164. A. Honkisz
165. A. Nepomnyachsniy
166. M. Vanderaerden
167. E. Verbist
Santander
171. F. Ventoso
172. A. Durán
173. F. Echarri
174. I. Erviti
175. J. Gallego Martin
176. J. Moreno
Wiggle
181. T. Diggle
182. V. Bileka
183. G. Bole
184. R. Hampton
185. B. Jarc
186. A. Kuschynski
187. R. Tanguy
188. J. Tiernan-Locke
Bacardi
191. G. Steegmans
192. J. Ghyselinck
193. J. Kocjan
194. S. Kondrotas
195. A. Kruopis
Carmeuse
201. J. Roelandts
202. A. Aulas
203. S. Caethoven
204. JF. Camier
205. P. Jacobs
206. C. Lhotellerie
207. W. Weylandt
C
211. L. Paolini
212. A. Locatelli
213. L. Locatelli
214. M. Pinotti
215. G. Varnier
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| SotD |
Posted on 31-08-2011 06:58
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Nice - Eventhough I feel sorry for the guys who had a good first 3 stages. Hopefully the stages will look fairly identical to the first ones.
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| Heine |
Posted on 31-08-2011 15:09
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Now Flügel and Reus will win every stage 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 31-08-2011 21:08
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Spoiler Jack Wolfskin
1. R. Gesink
2. S. Chavanel
3. D. Cornu
4. J. Donald
5. M. Kreder
6. M. Sieberg
7. B. Vaugrenard
UBS
11. S. Schumacher
12. S. Barrio
13. R. Bertogliati
14. R. Chtioui
15. K. Lalouette
16. D. Lelay
17. F. Stalder
Sony
21. Y. Trofimov
22. S. Anza
23. K. Fouquet
24. R. Granjel Cabrera
25. D. Muravjev
26. S. Pauwels
27. A. Wetterhall
Festina
31. F. Pozzato
32. L. Bøchman
33. K. Goddaert
34. O. Kaisen
35. A. Lavoine
36. D. Rijntjes
37. P. Voss
Warner Bros
41. S. Spilak
42. C. Barredo
43. K. De Ketele
44. M. Facci
45. K. Hulsmans
46. C. Le Mével
47. I. Mayo
48. Y. Talabardon
Spyker
51. P. Sinkewitz
52. S. Cohnen
53. M. Pedersen
54. M. Reimer
55. E. Weiss
56. A. Zeits
Pendleton's
61. D. Zabriskie
62. S. Duret
63. M. Ladagnous
64. D. Millar
65. K. Siutsou
66. G. Thomas
67. B. Wiggins
Team VW
71. K. Reus
72. W. Anacona
73. G. Brenes
74. A. Flügel
75. R. Förster
76. W. Li
77. J. Veikkanen
78. R. Zabel
Webeffect
81. A. Kashechkin
82. D. Appollonio
83. J. Baugnies
84. K. Boeckmans
85. G. Brizuela
86. A. Gilanipoor
87. F. Matamoros
88. S. Nooytens
Wikipedia
91. T. Van Garderen
92. B. Caldwell
93. J. Casper
94. R. Cleaver
95. E. King
96. G. Lejman
97. T. Pinot
98. M. Sprick
Milka
101. J. Coppel
102. M. Bouet
103. A. Delaplace
104. A. Honkisz
105. A. Nepomnyachsniy
106. M. Vanderaerden
107. E. Verbist
Pearl
111. T. Kangert
112. E. Berthou
113. J. Mendes
114. L. Mondory
115. Y. Offredo
116. E. Popov
117. R. Vanderbiest
118. P. Velits
B&O
121. N. Keinath
122. J. Drucker
123. C. Jørgensen
124. K. Nielsen
125. J. Sagan
126. A. Steensen
127. S. Stenersen
Bacardi
131. G. Steegmans
132. J. Ghyselinck
133. J. Kocjan
134. S. Kondrotas
135. A. Kruopis
Focus
141. R. Sicard
142. B. Feillu
143. R. Feillu
144. D. Gaudin
145. B. Jungels
146. A. Kirsch
147. F. Morizot
148. T. Skujins
Colombia
151. M. Rogers
152. A. Ardila Cano
153. J. Castañeda
154. H. Gallardo
155. S. Ivars
156. S. Joly
157. W. RodrÃguez Parra
Vesuvio
161. M. Iglinski
162. C. Betancourt
163. N. Clesen
164. S. Einsle
165. B. Gastauer
166. D. Mehr-Wenige
167. B. Swift
Carmeuse
171. J. Roelandts
172. A. Aulas
173. S. Caethoven
174. JF. Camier
175. P. Jacobs
176. C. Lhotellerie
177. W. Weylandt
Santander
181. F. Ventoso
182. A. Durán
183. F. Echarri
184. I. Erviti
185. J. Gallego Martin
186. J. Moreno
Wiggle
191. T. Diggle
192. V. Bileka
193. G. Bole
194. R. Hampton
195. B. Jarc
196. A. Kuschynski
197. R. Tanguy
198. J. Tiernan-Locke
Nestlé
201. D. Di Luca
202. H. Aguilar
203. S. Caldeira
204. P. Fédrigo
205. N. Hoffman
206. N. Portal
207. M. Schär
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 31-08-2011 21:15
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Disaster, Roelandts is now a bigger favourite than Ventoso.
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| SotD |
Posted on 31-08-2011 21:27
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Nice to see Pozzato among the favorites now... Too bad that Lavoine will damage his chances - Can I withdraw him from the race? 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 01-09-2011 22:39
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So the big man from Germany is in front of the pack but Kreder is not even close of following his wheel. Maybe they'll get a better timing when the stage victory will be at stake.
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Posted on 01-09-2011 23:14
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Should have spent some money on a sprinter in the off season.....
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Posted on 01-09-2011 23:23
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fenian_1234 wrote:
Should have spent some money on a sprinter in the off season.....
Don't, they won't get a good position anyways.
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Posted on 01-09-2011 23:26
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Kami wrote:
fenian_1234 wrote:
Should have spent some money on a sprinter in the off season.....
Don't, they won't get a good position anyways.
And when you do fluke a win the race gets redone anyway
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Posted on 02-09-2011 10:39
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Some pretty weird AI moves. 
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Posted on 02-09-2011 10:43
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Damn it, really should have pulled that back for Ventoso
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Posted on 02-09-2011 10:59
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SotD wrote:
Nice to see Pozzato among the favorites now... Too bad that Lavoine will damage his chances - Can I withdraw him from the race?
Ouch.
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Posted on 02-09-2011 11:43
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Getting closer, only stage 6 now for a chance of victory.
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| ember |
Posted on 02-09-2011 11:43
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Great start on the hills for Trofimov, every second is important here, as Gesink, Schumacher and Spilak are great challengers for the overall win.
Feel sorry for SotD, horrible riding from Pozzato on stage 3.
Edit: And very nice to see the reports coming this fast, great reading.
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| SotD |
Posted on 02-09-2011 12:43
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Nothing new here. I just need Contador to crash out of the final stage in Catalunya now, and we have hit a full house of crashes.
Wtf is happening... Seems this will be a season where I need to avoid relegation instead of fighting for the top 3, due to all these crashes and/or lazy attitude 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 02-09-2011 12:58
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Trofimov should thank JW for that stage win.
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| Kami |
Posted on 02-09-2011 13:00
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alexkr00 wrote:
Trofimov should thank JW for that stage win.
In two ways: chasing the break, and blocking everyone who was on the right side on the road.
I'm happy with the KoM, but i'll lose it anyways i guess. I have no idea why Kruopis only started sprinting when he was reeled in though.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-09-2011 13:02
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Kami wrote:
I have no idea why Kruopis only started sprinting when he was reeled in though.
A problem with PCM for as long as I can remember, unfortunately. Riders in solo groups dont sprint, even when they should, and would do in real life.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 02-09-2011 13:41
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My weakest team for one of the three stage races, and possibly my best performance so far (in the re-run!). Nice.
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