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sprintman
I would like to know you opinion about the stats of guys like peter sagan , marcel kittel , bauke mollema and chris froome
 
kwkke10
I think that they are pretty realistic, its not because they win a few stages that there stats are too low , its just because they are in good form and that it is the end of a long season for some riders
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sprintman
I think that in the case of Kittel it's a little bad because he has beaten all the guys it the same stats of him and with a huge advantage . And about froome i think that the stats of him are not real realistic

Froome

PLAINS : 69
MOUNTAIN : 72
DOWNHILL : 69
TT : 73
PROLOGUE : 71
ACC : 70
END :72
RES : 71
REC : 69
HILL : 71
ATT : 64
Edited by sprintman on 30-08-2011 12:41
 
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kwkke10
If you play pcm with Kittel in very good form and the rest in a normal shape, he will also beat them all. And froome's stats may be upped a bit
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sprintman
I didnt put this topic one week ago because i wanted to see what froome would do in the tt because in the other stagesl ike the ones that purito won he was all the time it wiggins and even in the sierra nevada he worked a lot and maneged to stay in the front
 
CrueTrue
You also have to keep in mind that the stats progress over a season - just like Kittel has progressed (irl) from January to August.

If you set Kittel's starting stat to 80 or whatever, it might be 83 by the end of the season which, I suppose, is not what you want to happen.
 
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sprintman
That's true however i think that even like that froome must be upped a bit
 
Avin Wargunnson
But you cant compare two situations:
1.Sagan and Kittel are two of the most promising youngsters in the world, so they have pretty high stats in the database (maybe it should be higher for Kittel) and more important they are able to score great results throughout the whole season irl.
2. Froome on the other hand is probably on of those typical "Vuelta comets" after not so great first half of the season. He is of course very good talent,but shouldnt have much higher stats right now imo. And wait for the rest of Vuelta, he can easily crack and finish way backWink
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 30-08-2011 12:58
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Alakagom
I think Froome stats are justified. And adding to that, he has good potential set. In my Sky Game, he potentially can become 79 Climber and 81 Trial-er, which is fair I think. Though if he keeps going like that, there' needs to be some update, but the PCM.Daily team will take care of that, don't worry ! Wink
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maaarsh
The only problem with Sagan's stats is that the game always interprets and develops him as a sprinter.
 
Avin Wargunnson
maaarsh wrote:
The only problem with Sagan's stats is that the game always interprets and develops him as a sprinter.

And what is wrong with that? He actually is a sprinter, with great climbing ability
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carlos_valverde
peter sagan
74 mont 75 val 75 spr

kittel
78 spr

mollema
76 mont 77 val
 
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maaarsh
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
maaarsh wrote:
The only problem with Sagan's stats is that the game always interprets and develops him as a sprinter.

And what is wrong with that? He actually is a sprinter, with great climbing ability


Playing in to a future where He & EBH are duking it out with Cavendish and never develop in any other direction is rather 1 dimensional, and dull. It is not unreasonable to think he may have an Ardennes future, but not in the PCM daily database.
 
sprintman
Peter Sagan in 2013 is the best sprinter in the world with 80 in cobbles in my career Pfft
 
Avin Wargunnson
maaarsh wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
maaarsh wrote:
The only problem with Sagan's stats is that the game always interprets and develops him as a sprinter.

And what is wrong with that? He actually is a sprinter, with great climbing ability


Playing in to a future where He & EBH are duking it out with Cavendish and never develop in any other direction is rather 1 dimensional, and dull. It is not unreasonable to think he may have an Ardennes future, but not in the PCM daily database.

Problem with Sagan is that nobody really knows in which type of a rider he will develop irl.I know i have "national based pink glasses" probably but he can be the star in sprints,ardennes,time-trial,cobbles maybe even a future GT contender, only future will tell us.So you cant give him 5 stars potential in almost every stat in a database, so Daily crew pick the sprint and hill ability which is most likely and then AI of pcm screwed the training.
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YvesStevens
carlos_valverde wrote:
peter sagan
74 mont 75 val 75 spr

kittel
78 spr

mollema
76 mont 77 val


Peter Sagan ... 74 mountain? are you crazy?
 
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