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Evolution of attributes: 0.3 or 0.5
cactus-jack
I will be starting a lenghty career and I've created a rider. He will be a future GT-rider and I've set some his starting attributes to: MO. 76 HILL: 76 TT: 76.

This is my plan:
- 1-3 years: Contender for Top 10 in a GT
- 3-4 years: Contender for Top 3 in a GT
- 5 tears an on: Contender for the overall win in a GT.

What should I set the evolution of attributes to: 0.3, 0.4 or 0.5?
 
kumazan
If that's the plan put it at 0.0 Otherwise he will be good enough for the win in a couple years max.
 
cactus-jack
Seriously? I didn't think that the attributes went up that quickly.
 
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Lachi
The starting attributes are high enough to win small tours in the first season, maybe even top 3 in the Vuelta. So you should seriously consider lowering these values if you really want to play for then 5 seasons.

BTW: You forgot to mention his potential and age. This is as important as the evolution factor.
 
kumazan
Yeah, what Lachi said. Also, with an evolution factor of 0.5, and even without any trainer, that rider will end up the first season with MO and TT around 80, providing he has a not too low evolution factor.

So yeah, attributes go up pretty fast, specially if you have a half-decent trainer, which I assume you don't as it is your first season with a custom team.
 
cactus-jack
Hmm... I think i will lower his stats to maybe 72 or 73, how does that sound?
Age: 20
Potential: 8
 
kumazan
That's more realistic at least. Pfft

Still, if you want to 'wait' 5 years until he becomes a GT win contender you must set a very low attribute evolution (ie. 0.0 or 0.1). Even then, there's a chance that he'll be good enough for a GT win before, but it won't be in 1 season.
 
cactus-jack
How about this then; MO HILL and TT at 73, potential 8 and age 20 with evolution at 0.2 or 0.3.

At which point will he be a serious contender for a GT?
 
ruben
Hard to say actually. Because Cyanide has a dynamic progression system.

In one career he could be top in few seasons. In other career he will turn into a late bloomer.

It's no longer linear like in PCM 2006/2007/2008. Since 2009 it's a dynamic progression.
It can be linear, but most likely irregelar.

Regardless of that, the evolution of attributes stat is most realistic at 0.3 for me
 
Lachi
If you feel that he evolves too slowly, you can raise the value at any time using an editor (DYN_manager.coeff_f_carac_evolution)
Edited by Lachi on 06-08-2011 23:45
 
kumazan
It's hard to know, because it depends of which trainer he has (if any), and the rider own evolution factor. He'd likely be able to fight for the Vuelta or the Giro in the 3rd season with an average evolution factor. If higher, maybe in the 2nd.
 
cactus-jack
Since I mostly hear that 0.3 is the most realistic one it will probably look like this:
- MO, HILL and TT 73
- Age 20
- Potential 8
. Evolution 0.3.

I won't be using a trainer the first season, I've decided to set the sponsors contract to 1 season and focus most of my excess budgett to hire a decent sponsor scout. If I can find someone with a bit higer budgett I will start building the "infrastructure" around the team.
 
lasseolsen
What if the attribute evolution is set on 1 and the potential is 8, age is 20, and the skills are about 60. How long time before he is a GT contender?
 
lasseolsen
Oh by the way, he also has a very good trainer.
 
lasseolsen
Q. for Lachi. How is (DYN_manager.coeff_f_carac_evolution) working, is it a random value or is it a compenation of several factors? If it is a compenation then what is the factors?
 
Lachi
It is the evolution factor which you set at the start of the career.

You do not need to add a new post, you can edit your posts.
 
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